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How would you break it to your SO you're into this shit, especially if you fantasize about her being in situations? Do I just keep quiet about it? Couldn't risk her breaking up with me or some shit


It depends on what you want to achieve.

Most likely she will not break up with you because of such thing and it will go pretty well.

Keep in mind that women do not give shit in what situation they are as long as they get attention from the guy they like. all what matters is that you see HER in those situations and not some other girl. If she is not totally frigid ice queen she will get into any of your fantasy and enjoy it. Just make sure she understand that you are not going to cut her throat when she is asleep.

I would recommend talking about that in the situation when she is on the high libido mood. In those situation people do not give a shit about what is happening they will accept anything. On the other hand id she is frigid she may freak out because she is already faking orgasms and she is not willing to get into more weird things

she may also refuse and most likely she will refuse at first but it will not have any bad consequences. very likely she will change her mind withing few days if you presented everything properly with high optimism and enthusiasm telling her how great it is.


I'd say almost never worth it unless you find out she enjoys guro beforehand.


Thanks for the advice! I probably wont mention it then just for the risk


I would sloooowly test out the waters.

Many women I know of have 'taboo-ish' fantasies.
Sometimes they are really into it, carrying
those mindgames along with them all the time,
and sometimes the 'nasty' stuff crosses their
mind, stays for a while and then disappears.
It's like a phase.

That's just what I have experienced from
a few example-women.

Going in too hard on her concerning
that topic, especially stating, that you
imagine HER in those fantasies…
Did it once.
Won't do it again.

Another point would be damage-control.
Imagine, that she would blast your
intimate thoughts out to the public.
Could you stand up to it?
Could she could seriously damage
your social environment by doing so?

It really depends on her as a person,
her character.
But keep in mind, that women can be
very unpredictable sometimes.

A female friend of mine told me within a
casual conversation that her BF is secretly
into watersports… Just so…
they had a little bit of a fight going
on between them, nothing serious.
But that seemed to be enough to 'frame' him
a little bit.
Now I've got to deal with the problem that
whenever they come over to visit,
NOT to piss into his drinks, when I serve them.


Do not go there unless she leads you there.


Embarrassingly shallow understanding of women as human beings.


this heavily depends on your definition of "human being"
Women are typically a bit lesser human beings than men according to some of those definitions.


Settle down Trundle


Alright man. You're probably in your late teens or early twenties and wrestling with your own perceived inadequacies. At this point in your unique development as a person you lack the experience, imagination, or empathetic ability (or two or all three of those) to understand women beyond an outward impression. You see traits for which men are mocked. Being smaller and weaker, having higher voices, childlike facial features. Wearing frilly clothes. Getting fucked by men. You see the infantile way some women act. You're not able to understand (or at least you haven't thought deeply and honestly about) the social pressures that force women into this role. The broken way we raise girls. The broken way we treat women as adults. The basic power dynamic when you are surrounded by men much stronger than you who want to fuck you, any of whom could be a rapist. The subtleties of shame and solidarity between women. The way women perform womanhood for men. You're blind to how all of this works, to the invisible structure of gender in our culture. I could go on and on.

The result is that your view of the world is not accurate. Just like a sincere, totally convinced flat earther's view of the world is not accurate. You're simply wrong. Overcoming this wrong worldview won't be a quick process for you. Maybe you never will, lots of men never do. They marry women they do not respect, hate their marriages, and die having never experienced love or romance with someone they consider an equal. You have more to learn about the human condition, and probably some personal growth still to go through. Being better than women might be one of those load-bearing walls holding up your identity and self esteem. Maybe you've read some pick up artist literature. Who knows. For your sake, and for the sake of the women around you, and for the sake of the culture you participate in, I hope you figure it out.

In the meantime though, stop saying dumb shit like that on this board because you're going to drive women away.


OP, explore kink incrementally. Work your way up to roleplay. Once you both understand, and understand that the other understands, the barrier between fantasy and reality, and have explored more mainstream kinks together, you can begin to broach the subject. This is the safe way to do it.


It looks like you are applying ideology of those MGTOW women haters you find on YouTube. but you cannot be any more wrong with your assumptions about me.
I do not even slightly blame women for any of those things you mentioned here. In fact, it is more like the total opposite.
The reason why I see women as a lesser human then men is because the definition of human is the opposite of the animal. (even if technically humans are animals.)
Women are always closer to nature than men. that is the pretty obvious well-known fact which includes even animals while men are more independent abstract entities who are way less connected with nature than women who live in their own world with their own meaning doing things that from the female perspective makes totally no sense.
And that is precisely what it means to be human.

Whether you are infantile strong or weak or whatever else does not matter it is about how far away you moved from nature and your evolutionary purpose of babymaking.

And while you seemingly object to wahst I say about women you still mentioned one thing
>>You're not able to understand (or at least you haven't thought deeply and honestly about) the social pressures that force women into this role.

Yes I thought about that a lot, and this is one of the issues and methods on how to manipulate women because they are super sensitive to that social pressure. Women have an inborn desire to conform to be like everyone else and fit in society this aspect controls all aspects of their life. Men, on the other hand, are opposite they want to exclude themselves by being different and superior to everyone else.

There is nothing worse for a woman to be a white crow, and there is nothing worse for a man to be average.

This is what influences gender culture not the fact that big scary men rape poor innocent girls. It is how girls react to that. If you hurt a boy the boy will spend the rest of his life dreaming about how he gets revenge. You hurt a girl and she will spend the rest of her life depressed thinking how worthless she is.

>because you're going to drive women away.

And this is the typical female argument as well. (unless you mean that I will drive women from gurochan, not that I will have less success with them myself)

Instead of using this opportunity as a way to get into a fight and "ok now I will show this fool my superior skills and intellect and prove him being wrong" your argument is just "conform or you will be rejected."
This is in fact how practically all women react. They have no desire to fight and dominate they fell no pleasure from victory. They have no other arguments than "obey or get punished."


>>the definition of human is the opposite of the animal. (even if technically humans are animals.)



Nothing, I just sometimes use my brain instead of believing everything I am told by society. Maybe you could also try using it sometimes for purposes not intended by evolution but that will likely lead to termination of your genes. LOL


>unless you mean that I will drive women from gurochan

…Yes. Yes that's what I mean.


In that case I take it as serious argument. Maybe such kind of discussions will not happen in future.

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