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 No.9222[Last 50 Posts]

Hello. Reg here.

Please post any feedback you have for gurochan into this new, stickied thread.

Somehow the old thread was deleted. I'm certain it wasn't intentional, so let's just start from scratch.

 No.9248

Is there a way to remove the ability to post blank posts? Its starting to drive me nuts seeing somebody bump a thread with a post that doesn't even have text, let alone an image.

 No.9249

Proposal:
The BASH-BUZZER.

The BASH-BUZZER(TM) is a device, that is connected
to your laptop/PC via bluetooth.

It consists of two components:
The BUZZER and the BASHER.

THE BUZZER is a huge red button you are adviced
to place onto your table right next to your
keyboard.

The BASHER is a huge red 'Button' you are
REQUIRED to put into your poo-poo.

GUROCHAN(TM) will implement a corresponding
Browser PLUG-IN ;) that enables the usage
of the BUZZER and enforces the 'installation'
of the BASHER by all users.

Associated with every post that has been made,
there will be a 'CONNECT' item, clickable
for every user, reading the post being published
by the person responsible.

If the Post is considered 'Bullsh*' every user
is able to 'connect' to the poster.

Once 'connected', Pushing the BUZZER next to
your keyboard will activate the BASHER of the
user you are 'connected' to.

The BASHER will be plugged into the user
ASWELL as into a regular power outlet, which can
easily be found in every house hold.

It's gonna be fun for everyone:
OLD, YOUNG, … THE WHOLE FAMILY :))
INVITE YOUR NEIGHBOURS KID'S TO COME OVER.


Totally worth it.
Trust me.
[famous last words]

 No.9261

The thread listing at the top of each board seems to have a problem if the window gets too narrow, and in this case "too narrow" is still quite wide. The date in the "Last Reply" column splits onto two lines and then the listing becomes much harder to read as each entry is two lines tall.

It may be possible to dramatically improve the formatting of gurochan with a browser extension rather than hoping the site admins will spend their limited time just to suit our tastes. For example, there is the option of Greasemonkey for Firefix and Tampermonkey for Chrome.

 No.9264

As turns out, we don't need Greasemonkey or Tampermonkey to adjust gurochan to our tastes. That is excessive. A simpler way to adjust the layout is using the extension called "Stylish" that provides an easy way to edit style sheets for any website. Here's a simple style sheet that I created and it seems to be improving my experience.

Perhaps some of these things could be considered for gurochan's built-in style sheets.

/* Expand the thread list to be wider and make it resizable */
.catalogtable {
resize:vertical;
width:90%;
margin-left:5%;
}
/* Prevent wrapping in the thread list */
.catataba {
white-space: nowrap;
}
/* Highlight the current row of the thread list under the mouse */
.catataba tr:hover {
background: #FFFFF0;
}
/* Limit the width of post bodies for easier reading, adjust to taste */
.body {
width:6in;
}
/* Prevent spans from wrapping */
form span {
white-space: nowrap;
}
/* Expand the width of the post entry form */
form table {
width:70%;
}
/* Right-align the left column and minimize the width */
th:first-child, td:first-child {
text-align:right;
width:0;
}
/* Expand the width of text and file fields */
form td input[type="text"], td input[type="file"] {
width:70%;
}

 No.9265

>>9264

Your proactiveness is both unexpected and welcome. Im at work right now so I dont have the oppurtunity to check how this looks. But once I get home I can, then I can make changes to our dev environment if its pretty ehich can eventually be pushed up to the real guro chan by the head developer.

 No.9293

>>9248
Yes please. I think this should be a priority, it's getting fucking annoying

 No.9306

Create a hidden service for Tor! I miss the old one.

 No.9307

>>9306

You can use gurochan comfortably with tor-browser.
What do you need a hidden service for?

 No.9332

>>9307

For when the regular domain goes down. Sometimes it's just the domain, and you can still access the site using the hidden service

 No.9336

>>9332

A hidden service is useful;
No doubts about that.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by:
>For when the regular domain goes down.

Usually, when only the domain is affected,
it's due to ISP- or Areal blocking.

In this case, proxying your traffic over
tor (using tor-browser)
or using a regular proxy
or using a VPN should suffice.

If gurochan gets hit by more serious
issues, for example getting kicked out
by the hosting service provider,
then I would recommend going Hidden
entirely and staying hidden.

 No.9340

SUGGESTION:
I'm not sure if this was already tested and
failed.

But what about a 'chat-thread'?
Doesn't need to be fancy or realtime.
Just as a place where ppl can casually
have their chit-chat.

No topic-specification.

As soon as a topic hits enough interest,
create a thread exclusively for that
topic and carry the discussion over.

This way, the overall generation of
'dead' threads which might only contain
a question of a single person or so
could potentially be decreased.

Maybe this could even increase engagement
and overall communication between ppl.

Who knows..

 No.9360

I realize this is asking a lot and it would probably never happen, but still it's something I've been wanting pretty hard, so I'll mention it.

It would be amazing if there were a way to show feedback and approval for the things we like, such as a button which would let us register an up-vote or a thumbs-up on high quality posts. We might even be given a way to post comments in praise of posts that we appreciate without that becoming clutter that diminishes the very thread that we are trying to appreciate. So perhaps comments could be folded away by default, and only revealed if you click to see what people's opinions are of a particular post.

That way people could do things like asking for the source of an image, without adding a no-content post to a thread. It would also make it clear that people are encourage to leave comments on gurochan content and thereby perhaps we might get more lively discussion of how great stuff is on this site.

For example, if I enjoy a little story I read in the /rp/ board, I'm not going to post in that thread to gush about how much I love it, because that thread is reserved for continuing the RP that it is designed for. It's not at all clear where I should gush about this, so it seems I'll just keep my enthusiasm to myself. If I could at least have a button to click to record my approval, that would be amazing.

 No.9367

>>9360
There is also a bit simpler idea to show page view counts if possible. as how many times each picture was clicked. since if someone clicks on your picture or story this is already same as thumbs up.

 No.9380

Perhaps this might be a practical option: We could have a comments board that's like the /dis/ board but it is used for commenting on things posted in other boards. That would be quite awkward to use without a bit of extra support from the site, so it's not quite as easy as just adding an new board. We would want the threads in the comment board to be automatically linked to and from the post they are commenting on. That way people are automatically taken to the correct thread for making comments, and they can always click a link to find the post that is inspiring any comment thread.

In particular, I would put a link to the comments board in the header of each post. If the post already has a comment thread in that board, then the link would take us to that thread and the text of the link would be something like "42 comments". If there is no thread, then the link would take us to the main page of the comments board and automatically setup the new-topic form to comment about the post we came from. In that case the text of the link could be something like "Leave first comment." Naturally for posts in the comment board, the link would take us back to the original post instead of creating a comment upon a comment.

This is probably akin to asking for the moon, but sometimes it feels good to dream big.

 No.9390

I think the light theme should be used for /g/ at least, if the light one is the red one. The grey one is… not very gurochan-like…

 No.9392

>>9336
Back when it was run on the .ch domain, a lot of people connected to the hidden service who would refuse to connect otherwise (e.g. it was linked on onion sites).

 No.9393

>>9380
You can do that with e.g. >>>/req/9222 (that example links back to this thread). So that feature already exists.

 No.9395

>>9360
A like button on an imageboard? You're joking, right?

Sage goes in all fields.

 No.9397

>>9393
>You can do that with e.g. >>>/req/9222 (that example links back to this thread). So that feature already exists.

It's too bad we don't have an FAQ to explain these fascinating details to people. Are all three of the greater-than signs required? Testing: >>/req/9222

Unfortunately that only gives us half of what we need for a comment thread, and it's the less important half. The more important feature would be a link from the post to the comment thread, or else the comment thread is of dramatically reduced value.

Having said that, it might still be fun to call out something really amazing I find by using this technique to link to it from a /dis/ post, partially to give people another way to find it and to allow me to explain how much I love it and why. Unfortunately doing that would tend to clutter /dis/, especially if multiple people comment on the same post by starting multiple separate topics in /dis/, not realizing that there is already a topic for that post.

>>9395
>A like button on an imageboard? You're joking, right?

No joke. It is frustrating to not be able to express appreciation for the wonderful things on this site. Perhaps we've been spoiled by having such a feature on so many sites, but that doesn't change the fact that it's very nice to have.

 No.9403

>>9397
>No joke. It is frustrating to not be able to express appreciation for the wonderful things on this site. Perhaps we've been spoiled by having such a feature on so many sites, but that doesn't change the fact that it's very nice to have.
I think I agree with Onix's idea, a simple view count would be nice enough. Having likes/dislikes sort of goes against the spirit of an anonymous imageboard imo.

 No.9418

>>9222
A normie game for a guro fan!

 No.9449

>>9418
Mortal Kombat

 No.9476

>>9248 Seconded. If there is a way to prevent posts without content without having to make people sign up for an account I would really appreciate that. But I can see that it might be difficult.

>>9367 I agree very much with Onix. Likes are not necessary but a view count would be nice and motivating.

 No.9477

>>9476
>Likes are not necessary but a view count would be nice and motivating.

If a view count is motivating, then surely likes would be far more motivating. After all, a view count doesn't really meaning anything. Just because someone looked at a post doesn't mean they appreciated the post in any way. They could just as easily have skimmed past it without paying any attention. A like count would give us a real idea of how many people we're reaching, while a view count would just be a meaningless number.

 No.9478

>>9477
As someone who occasionally does write in /lit/, I'm motivated primarily by my own desire to write.
Likes/dislikes can be too easily abused by people who don't like the fetishes you, the author, are into. That can be far more damaging than whatever positive feedback can be achieved by likes. If someone wants to leave positive feedback, or criticism, they can write a simple post in the thread. A shitposter is more easily ignored if they have to actively shit out a dumb ass post, whereas actual criticism of the story is more valuable in the form of a well written post in the thread.

 No.9479

>>9476
I'm not very well versed in software or coding, but it shouldn't be that difficult to include a filter that blocks any "blank" (no image or text) posts. IIRC, 4chan has just that kind of feature.

 No.9480

>>9478
>If someone wants to leave positive feedback, or criticism, they can write a simple post in the thread.

They can do that, but they have good reason to want to avoid doing it. People go to the /g/ board mostly looking for /g/, and usually not looking to find some /g/ buried under a ton of comments about how great /g/ is. By posting feedback in a thread, we dilute the very content we're trying to give feedback on. When something is really amazing and no one seems to notice, then perhaps it might be worth posting a comment in the thread, but it feels bad to do so. It is bringing the thread back to the top without having contributed anything new to it, and the next person who finds that thread will be forced to scroll past all the comments to get to the good stuff.

 No.9481

>>9480
>People go to the /g/ board mostly looking for /g/, and usually not looking to find some /g/ buried under a ton of comments about how great /g/ is.
Fair enough, but I was talking about /lit/, not /g/. Most active posters in /g/ are not posting their own content, but art from other artists, so I don't feel like they should get "liked" for doing something that anyone with a PC and access to a search engine can do. The biggest issue with /g/ is the infuriating amount of blank posts being spammed, and people who seem to have the English comprehension of a kindergartner (that's me being generous) posting off topic bullshit.

 No.9482

>>9481
>I don't feel like they should get "liked" for doing something that anyone with a PC and access to a search engine can do.

Being liked is a very small reward, so it seems rather appropriate to give such a small reward for such a small task. It's nice to know that someone out there appreciates even the little things we do. Plus, if we had likes then all the boards would get them, including ones which are more deserving.

On the other hand, is it really so easy to find guro with a search engine? One of the reasons I love gurochan is that it has stuff I never find anywhere else. Is there a trick to the search keywords that I'm missing?

 No.9483

>>9482
Well I typically just use pixiv, twitter and a bunch of boorus to find guro art. That, and certain japanese websites, like seesawwiki.jp and Pilot Suit Fetish. I don't know if there's any special trick beyond some basic detective work, using reverse image search, and knowing some japanese terms (which some anons have helpfully compiled on /art/).
All of these sites I came across through lurking on imageboards and my own browsing.

 No.9487

>>9477
>If a view count is motivating, then surely likes would be far more motivating.

While it may be nice to get likes for your work but Just from my own behavior I suspect that it is not really working because people do not bother with giving likes to you and even if they do it is entirely random process.
On my pixiv page my pictures get more 30% bookmarks than likes

Also we should count not just thumbnail views, but how many times full picture was "downloaded" as logically if you like that picture you will click on the thumbnail to enlarge it and give it more of your attention, and it you are not interested you will ignore it.

If you want view/like ratio, it may be good idea to show separate view counts for both thumbnails and full sized pictures.
as each picture woud have stat saying something
1000/200 Views

I am not against "like" button but I doubt that it will work here without user registering or everyone will be able to click it as many times as they desire and it will be pretty hard to prevent people from pushing it 20 times in a row.
But maybe this is not so bad just more motivation ;)

 No.9488

>>9487
>I am not against "like" button but I doubt that it will work here without user registering or everyone will be able to click it as many times as they desire and it will be pretty hard to prevent people from pushing it 20 times in a row.

Certainly we wouldn't want registration, but we can just think of the "like" button as being a substitute for posting a reply that says "I like this". There's nothing stopping people from posting such a reply 20 times in a row right now. The like button would just let them do it without messing up the thread, so it would be a purely positive way to make your satisfaction known.

 No.9489

So about likes or view counts: From my own behavior and from what i have seen on other sites, i'm pretty sure most people don't bother to "like" a post they actually like. For me it's pretty random, usually i don't bother to click the button, then very rarely i do and there will be tons of posts i didn't "like" that i actually liked far more. View counts are more honest in that regard, especially if they count the people who actually downloaded the picture, it just wouldn't work with text posts. And of course it's easy to manipulate a like count without registering. It's still easy to manipulate view counts in absolute numbers, but i expect the absolute numbers on that to be much higher - on other sites there are usually up to 100 views for every "like". I think view counts would overall be more motivating for artists than like buttons, likes could instead be pretty demotivating when nobody bothers to "like" something.

The best idea would probably be a view count for every thread for every time someone clicked on the thread and then a seperate view count for every picture for every time that picture was downloaded.

 No.9490

>>9488
In that case problem can be solved by renaming like button to "thank you" button like on some other forums. It will be more logical than like because if you did not received any thanks it does not mean nobody liked your work ;)

But of course I have nothing against like button either if admins are willing to implement it.
Of course like/thanks is only way that can somewhat work on stories
but also it is better just to write plain comment there as you are not in danger of contaminating thread anyway.


finally all that gave me another idea for another functionality:
if you start your post with
>>
(as if you are posting reply )
it is left collapsed by default until you press "expand posts" button
that way there will be no danger of contaminating threads with various irrelevant discussions and other stuff.
but of course this way gurochan from simple image board is going to turn into super advanced platform and I wonder if people want that.

 No.9504

Please add a stickied thread to /g/ explaining how to use common reverse image searching tools.

 No.9549

File: 1560194645161.png (12.7 KB, 846x168, Screenshot_2019-06-10 lit….png)

Could you add a minimal width to the first column of the thread list table?
I have a rather small screen, and on /lit/ this column auto-shrinks to the point that the date gets a line break, which doubles the height of ALL rows, and the div containing the table is already quite small as it is.

 No.9566

>>9549
>on /lit/ this column auto-shrinks to the point that the date gets a line break, which doubles the height of ALL rows,

You can fix this yourself using a browser plugin called Stylish which lets you modify the CSS for any website and do all sorts of wonderful things to your web experience. The problem you're talking about was hugely annoying until I found Stylish. I posted some of the CSS modifications I'm using earlier in this thread, but here's the one you really want:

.catataba {
white-space: nowrap;
}

Put that into Stylish for gurochan.cx and from then on it will be impossible for the thread list table to break its lines. You can also use Stylish to change the size of the table so you can see more than 5 threads at a time, and make it dynamically resizable by clicking and dragging.

I also love using this to limit the width of the text in a post to make them easier to read without having to scan your eyes all the way across the screen.

.body {
width:6in;
}

That makes all posts 6 inches wide, but obviously you will want to adjust it to your taste.

 No.9569

>>9248
>>9293
>>9476
>>9479
Just gonna reiterate my desire to see an end to these irritating blankposts. It bugs me, and a lot of other users to no end to see a thread being bumped by some jackass contributing fuck all in terms of images or writing.

 No.9630

Guys, do you think you could have a look at the search function.

For instance, I wanted to find works by Tsade on /lit/ , so I search

name:Tsade

And get "search query to broad" error.

That's nuts! How the hell am I supposed to find an authors work?

Thanks!

 No.9634

So what's happened to the formatting?

Now, when I post in italics using '' as before, I get invisible (spoiler?) text. Is this a glitch? I really don't want to have to re-post 55k words of my story (And if I do, I guess it'll be on another site).

Yes I'm pissed. Thankyou and love you all.

 No.9635

>>9634
Well it seems to be fine now. Either you guys did the fastest fix ever, or it was a glitch at my end. And I still love you all.

 No.9652

Hi all,
I’m something of a free range archivist, I go around and make backups of sites I consider either high-risk, or, at very least, of cultural significance.
While it’s easy enough just to run a scrape of the site with wget, and it’d probably be easy to get a regular imageboard archiver working with this site, I always prefer working directly with the sites operators if at all possible, which, at times, can allow for easier restoration of the site at a future date, should anything fail catastrophically, along with minimising any unnecessary overutilisation of the sites resources.
If any of the administrators would be interested in working with me on this, I’d much appreciate it.
(Even if you think things are pretty much going well, sometimes it’s valuable to have someone not part of the sites main team who has a copy of the site. As an example, I asked the operators of nyaa.se about running a site backup, they assured me everything was fine, and that the guy running the site was stable and doing a fantastic job. Two weeks later, servers were wiped. Go figure.)
If you guys have frequent public backups somewhere that I couldn’t find, then I guess all is cool, but the best I can find is dumps from a previous incarnation of this site.

tl;dr: if you want the IP address of a server you can run a weekly rsync to, “Just In Case™”, I’d be happy to assist.

 No.9676

Is the site slow for anybody else?

 No.9680

>>9676
Yep, from my experience its been super slow to load for months now.

 No.9695

This might sound like me being a winey bitch, but can we maybe have a Loli section?

If seeing kids in that way gets some of you going then thats fine, but its a big no for me. I feel like there Is alot more of it on here these days.

 No.9720

A header on the main menu of where to get site updates in the future if it goes down again or has performance issues. I don't like having to rely on google to try and find the newest version of Gurochan when Google tries hard to hide all the search results.

 No.9727

>>9695

being able to have the old function to hide threads would be nice for this reason

 No.9745

>>9695
That's been discussed before. A loli section would reduce both the loli and non-loli content. I post both loli and non-loli, and if I was required to go to one board or the other, then you would see a lot less non-loli content because I'd only post on one board.

 No.9746

>>9745

I don't see how that would make sense. Also having a loli/shota section might make people who would rather not see that stuff use the site more (especially since we still cannot collapse threads), so I agree with >>9695

 No.9772

Getting the following error when trying to post:

"Failed to resize image! Details: gm convert: iCCP: CRC error (/tmp/php6x9OIX)."

Tried from computer and phone.
Not seeing anywhere that specifies a required image size, or I would resize it myself. Tried it at 80% scale too.

 No.9790

SFW mode, please? (unless it's already implemented, and I'm too stupid to use it)


(by "please" I mean I'm very, very greatful for all the IRL work you've done! And thank you!)

 No.9791

>>9790
Well if it's SFW, then I would say it doesn't belong on this site. I mean, SFW mode would just block everything. The clue's in the name "Guro" TBH. It's basically all about sexualized violence. I don't know what part of that would be acceptable at your workplace!

 No.9796

>>9791

Old Gurochan had SFW mode. It made pictures blurry (can't be bothered to remember correct term in English), so peeps could browse Gurochan in public, with their loved ones, in work or wherever without getting any unwanted attention.

/dis/ was even more of a safe space, because you couldn't post images there. On this version however even here you can add pics. I don't believe I'm only person wanting dat sneaky mod implemented, or rather reimplemented.

In other words it's an useful feature about "blocking everything", not complaints about content here, you dummy-dum.

 No.9797

>>9796
I would say that even having gurochan name in your browser address line or even with browser minimized on the screen is already not SFW ;)

 No.9801

>>9797
I doubt 40-50 yo parents/busy workmates/my "I knowe engalich buddies know what guro means.

Also do people really are against o p t i o n to have SFW mode on? Climate changes, please rek us fastah.

 No.9810

What's up with those "blank" posts across the site? No text, no picture, but some of them have the name of a contributing author.
Are those posts hidden, or is is just a way to bump thread?

 No.9813

>>9810
I have no clue, all I know is that I find them incredibly irritating.

 No.9814

>>9810
>>9813
I have a theory, that some people are trying to use the "reply" function to search the board. Not sure why that would be though, I don't remember it happening in the past. But very often I see an author's name, or a type of kink or a subject written in those fields.

I wonder if it's related to how the screen presents itself on certain devices? Or are there just more inept people visiting the site now?

 No.9835

Warn people for bigoted speech. Just set the tone a little more. If you have any mods who feel comfortable doing that, and who won't kill the vibe or act stuffy.

There's not much bigotry here, but there's some, and when it shows up it's jarring. We need to keep the line clear between fantasy and reality. We do not advocate real violence here. Bigotry <i>inherently</i> advocates real violence. Violence is what happens to inferiors, who by nature of being inferior deserve fewer rights. When you think women are inferiors… not much but the law prevents you from hurting them.

On a fucked up forum like gurochan, bans and mutes for speech might put a chill in the air, so maybe reserve them for bad social behavior (which is different from bad speech) – reserve the bans and mutes for really disruptive, high-volume, abusive posters. You gotta be willing <i>in theory</i> to mute or ban for speech, so your warnings carry weight, but don't actually do it unless it's an extreme situation.

That's my suggestion. Warn people sometimes for bigoted speech to keep the line clear between fantasy and reality. No one is inferior on gurochan except in fantasy.

 No.9836

>>9835
I really nailed those <i>italics</i> there didn't I?

If this doesn't work I'll look eat my sock

 No.9837

>>9835
>>Violence is what happens to inferiors, who by nature of being inferior deserve fewer rights.

Can't tell if this anon is trolling or sincerely incapable of empathy.

 No.9843

>>9835
>We do not advocate real violence here.
Agreed, which is why gurochan has a blanket ban on photography and doxxing of real people.
>Bigotry <i>inherently</i> advocates real violence.
Disagree.
"Anonymous" (well aware that they aren't truly anonymous) imageboards as a concept are where people should be allowed to express themselves freely within the boundaries of the law. Warning or banning people for being rude/racist isn't conducive to that.
The mods should only act when someone is posting shit that is nearly/clearly crossing boundaries.

 No.9855

Looks like we are getting invasion of hypersensitive snowflakes.
>>9835

You have very low chances to change opinion of people if you behave exactly as they say in that bigoted speech.

 No.9856

>>9837
The way I interpreted it, anon was talking about the PoV of someone who sees other human beings as "inferiors" and wasn't expressing how they themselves feel.

 No.9864

>>9837
I'll clarify. I'm saying bigotry (treating some group as inferior) leads to violence, which is one reason why bigotry is bad.

Also it's bad because it's wrong, huge swaths of people aren't inferior to other huge swaths of people

Any time and place in human history you wanna look, "inferior" has meant violence. That's all I'm saying.

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>>9843
>Anonymous imageboards as a concept are where people should be allowed to express themselves freely

That's right in general, anon, I agree. Gurochan, though, is 99% porn of women being tortured to death, women as cattle, women as objects, etc. On a board like this, saying women are cattle in real life, or inferior, or less human, or variants of that idea, blurs the line between fantasy and reality. Gurochan does have a few basic social mores it sticks to, and one of them is to not blur that line.

Anyone reading this comment who thinks women are inferior is not gonna care, or find me persuasive. My reasoning assumes that most of us care about women and do not think women are inferior. Or are women, lots of gurochanners are women.

 No.9865

…I'm not saying mods ought to start muting or banning anyone, or posting warnings more than once in a blue moon (and any warnings ought to be in casual language). But we ought to include in a sticky somewhere that "dehumanizing any real-life group of people is blurring the line, so don't do it nerds," and remind people who do it a lot to not do it a lot.

 No.9866

>>9855
Going off-topic a little now but I want to respond (this is probably my last comment in the thread)

Is it hypersensitive to, for example, say that wage theft is bad, and online speech encouraging wage theft is bad? Of course not. But if you are an employer who exploits his workers, and who thinks working class people are lazy and dumb and deserve to be exploited, you might roll your eyes and say such speech is oversensitive, and workers should stop complaining – because you do not respect the group of interest (workers) or agree with the message (wage theft is bad).

Replace the working class with women, and abusive employers with misogynists. I've seen your comments Onix so I know you see women as inferiors in real life. Of course you consider speech against misogyny "hypersensitive." You do not respect the group of interest (women) or agree with the message (women shouldn't be treated like inferiors).

"The US healthcare system is amoral and causes thousands of unnecessary deaths" ← is this hypersensitive speech? Of course not. This is valid expression of one's moral view on a topic that affects the wellbeing of millions of people. There are billions of women, and violence against women is widespread, because the view that women are inferior is widespread. It's ok to express one's moral view on this topic.

Anyway, while misogyny is bad and I wish it stopped, my point is only that saying women are inferior or subhuman in real life, on an imageboard dedicated to drawn fantasy violence against women, blurs the line between fantasy and reality. You can still think it, just don't say it over and over again on this board.

Alright, this is my last comment in the thread. Back to guro.

 No.9867

(I'm leaving the thread only because gurochan probably shouldn't become a place for political debate. I've already said everything I want to say so unless I'm here to debate, and I'm not, that's the end of it for me)

 No.9868

>>9866
>I've seen your comments Onix so I know you see women as inferiors in real life.

I also don't wast to contaminate this thread with irrelevant discussion, but since you mentioned me, I have to defend myself and say that I never said that anyone if superior or inferior. Please do not present me as some white supremacist because I am the exact opposite of that.

But if we go back to the idea about *avoiding* that kind of topic I sort of agree. I even agree that mods could delete controversial posts, but only if they do it along with the post that caused such a response, because it does not start from nothing. And once it starts you can not just end it so easily even if you don't want to continue.


On the other hand, if you have a board do discuss politics and philosophy it is hard to avoid controversial issues. You will often end in situations when people disagree on some topic.

 No.9884

>>9864
I agree with them on this. We don't want to encourage people to blur the line between fantasy and reality. As it is, most people I talk to think guro is just a very weird fetish. The last thing I want is for them to start thinking we're a group of incels.

You can say that we need to respect everyone's opinion. Do we? Really? Who gains from these opinions? If I think Candidate A would make a good leader, and you disagree, that's an opinion with value. Both parties can learn from the other's opinions. Nobody benefits from one person saying "I think [minority] are less human."

Anyone who thinks this would mean all non-SJW speech gets banned is a moron. What do you think the content of this board is….

 No.9885

>>9884
You do not gain anything from opinions by definition because opinion is by definition subjective like the taste.
Opinions exist just to express them and find people who think the same.

Even claim "Candidate A would make a good leader" can lead to the same result

-"Candidate A would make a good leader"
-"But Candidate A believes that [minority] are less human."
-"Yes I agree with candidate A about that. This is why he is good leader"
-"mommy I am triggered, this user thinks that [minority] are less human, ban him"

and there are many other ways how it can turn bad.

 No.9886

It's kinda funny seeing people talk about every other thing except whats the most important here >:D

There is already a thread for domination and for politics lol.

Lets just keep it to avoiding it here and posting where you want. No one should really have to defend what they want to see here (unless illegal) btw. There might be actual issues with the site and other ideas people may want to see happen here. Just let your creativity flow please.

>:)

 No.9887

>>9886
I'd hardly classify "not tolerating racism/etc" as "politics".

 No.9888

>>9887
But it is. Its the politics of freedom of speech. I've done some /rp/ and /lit/ stories based on racist characters, would that get me a warning? Where exactly would you draw the line? I'll reiterate my opinion that anything that isn't a clear threat against a specific person or group should be allowed, but in the end its up to the website owner and admins to decide on what is allowed on gurochan, not us.

Regarding your previous post, I don't think anyone "needs" posts that are harsh and discriminatory, but they don't need artwork of women getting gutted like pigs either. I think it would be a bit weird to have rules against politically incorrect speech on an imageboard based on one of the most politically incorrect fetishes in the world.

 No.9889

I mean to say no racism is allowed, however if someone had a particular fetish for (insert type of girl here) they should express it Tastefully. And, I meant politics as the few threads above us were talking about literally candidacy. Don't use racial slurs, epithets or anything too offensive (kinda funny saying on that here), but get your point across of what you want. I'm kinda suprised I would have to explain this one. Make your request but don't be a jackass with it… lol

>:)

 No.9891

>>9888
The line between fantasy and reality. As fantasy, as a story, it's fine. When the speech is not fantasy, like a story or roleplay, but an actual statement about the real world, it blurs the line.

This point has already been articulated really clearly multiple times in this thread.

 No.9894

>>9891
Sorry if I came across as a bit jumpy, I just get a bit heated when the topic of what is/isn't allowed to be said comes up. I think we have the same viewpoint, but I'm just worried about the potential for abuse.

Not that it matters, since the moderation team on gurochan seems to take a while to getting around to pruning reported posts.

 No.9895

>>9889
It's an imageboard. Get over it. Next thing you know, the "fag" suffix will be banned. Don't be a newfag.

The previews owners of the site may have been so busy that the site went down from time to time (not that it's much better now with its slow speeds), but at least censorship was NEVER acceptable then.

 No.9899

Why are there users who complain about guro images on this site?
Take a look at this one, for example
>>26584

 No.9900


 No.9904

>>9899
>>9900
I demand some explanations here.

 No.9908

>>9904
Because your spamming low effort MSpaint shitpost images and edits of Puchim@s characters on /g/. Also because you are blatantly samefagging in threads.

 No.9909

>>9908
I'm sure that's not the reason. I want to know what did the guy mean by calling the OP Quizno.

 No.9910

Reminder that 4chan attitude should not be allowed here.

 No.9955

I humbly request a way to bypass flood detection. IP verification, a secret password, etc. I already post here less because of it. If nothing else, just don't discard the post, but give me a timer like 4chan has before I can post again, and don't let me post if doing so would discard everything.

Also, a way to collapse/hide certain threads or posts, please. Lets us get to the stuff we want more quickly.

 No.9975


>>9955
> If nothing else, just don't discard the post, but give me a timer like 4chan has before I can post again.

while this flood protection is just annoying for me as well, but posts are not really discarded. If I get that error I just hit back and submit it again and if necessary once more. You probably also can just hit "refresh" button to resubmit everything.

I think implementing timer is impossible because this flood protection seems to be based on the total posts on the site not on the number of posts coming from one IP so it is totally unpredictable when you will get it

 No.9988

Can one of the mods deal with the guy who's spamming every thread in /g/ with his desire to be decapitated IRL? He's posted in /art/ too.

Thanks!

 No.9990

>>9988
Yeah, I'll second that request.

 No.9991

Is it possible to add back the option to download files with their original file names? Having to manually rename thousands of files is a pain.

I'm saving html copies of each thread right now just so I don't lose the information but yeah.

 No.10002

Not really feedback but a question: I have an AO3 story I'd like to share with /lit/ but it would be easier to just post a link to it rather than copy-pasting the whole thing into a thread. Is this allowed, or do I just have to paste the whole thing?

Also just a heads up, the feedback link on the front page leads to an old 404'd version of this thread, not this one.

 No.10003

>>10002
Since mods rarely show up here it is not like anything is forbidden LOL

But if you decide to post a link to external site at least be reasonable and write some synopsis of your story so that we could know what it is about without going there or you can just copy paste it whole if it is not too big.

 No.10010

>>9991

I second this because it makes organizing stuff so much easier

 No.10016

Having a link to the catalog at the top of each board would be nice.

 No.10082

>>9889
there is no rule against "racism" on the site.

 No.10102

i tried to post something on this thread but it's not working

https://www.gurochan.cx/fur/res/5318.html#q9595

 No.10103

>>10102
It's possible that the file you've tried to post is too big. Try to make it smaller and keep it under 2 MB.

 No.10106

>CP on /g/
Fucking Christ, and here I thought we'd be able to enjoy our degenerate 2d porn in peace. I hope the mods deal with this shit ASAP.

 No.10109

I think there's cp porn in 3DCG, care to remove it so i don't get FBI at home?

 No.10112

>>9695

Hey so its me again, the one complaining about Loli and all this kid like content on GC.

Well yeah as the previous guys have said above, we got fucking actual CP in 3DCG.

This needs to go.

And fuck all this Loli kids shit man its fucking disgusting. (I know its ironic me saying this here on GC of all places but I don't care, its sick).
Wtf is going on on 3dcg? That section needs to be purged and restarted.

Again, can we please have a Loli section so I and others don't have to stumble on this? Especially if it's a slippery slope to actual fucking CP as evidenced by the situation we have now.

 No.10113

>>10112 The actual cp almost certainly had nothing to do with the loli stuff. There have been a bunch of cp posts all over this site recently. Unfortunately that happens sometimes on anonymous imageboards. It got removed relatively fast every time, I hope the mods keep an eye on that and keep getting rid of it asap.

Separating loli from the rest is not practical for this site, this has been discussed already. It would be great to have a hide function, then everybody could just hide the content they don't want to see, but even more different boards are not a practical option.

 No.10116

I just got an idea that it woud be very great to move reply box to the bottom of the page. because having it in top just makes no sense at all and very annoying when you are trying to post multiple pictures.

You cannot see to what you are replying or what last picture you posted.
I think this also may prevent some people from commenting because they need to scroll up.

 No.10117


 No.10125

Please remove these child porno links

>>20183

>>26128
>>9675
>10124
>5443

Pretty much all the same post. scumbag posted on different boards.

 No.10126


 No.10127

I think you should use report button for that crap instead of using this thread.

 No.10130

i don't know how to report but i think on 3DCG there's potentially illegal material again

>>34338

 No.10131

There is a bunch of illegal stuff posted in almost every board right now, all the same, done by the same spammer. The worrying thing is: That happened 9 hours ago, and I reported some of it back then. And nothing happened. We need to have active mods if the site is targeted by stuff like this!

 No.10132

Is there any risk for me as an user of this site when illegal material like CP gets posted?
I know it might sound like a stupid question but CP is a very serious matter and i'm concerned of this recent spam

 No.10133

>>10132
I'm not aware of any convictions from accidental CP.

 No.10135

>>10132
I would say not on a board like this that doesn't require registration etc. There HAVE been cases in the past where a porn site was found to contain CP and every registered user was targetted, whether or not they had accessed that specific content (this came out later when many of the cases were thrown out or convictions over-turned on appeal - the reporting at the time was that everyone had been accessing CP). Since there is no registration process for Gurochan and therefore no database of users (the fact we don't all post under each other's names seems to be something of an honour system) it should be pretty safe as long as you don't click on the link itself!

 No.10136

>>10132
The general principle in the criminal cases is that if you can explain it reasonably and your explanation cannot be proved wrong you win.

Nobody will arrest you just for receiving spam or even clicking on those links
If you are extra paranoid just make sure that you do not save those pictures :) If nothing is found on your computer then no matter what, you cannot get prosecuted.

Although it is pretty ridiculous spam because spammer registered account on the file host and gets money from premium registrations. So it should take no effort for police to identify him.

 No.10137

Look at Operation Ore in the UK - it was started when the police were given a list of people who had, it was said at the time, used a credit card to access child pornography. Many men were aressted but most released with a "caution" which they accepted rather than face potentpal charges - a caution for CP, however, is enough to place you on the SO register in the UK. There was a presumption of guilt since their cards were used. However, it later came out that the site in question was a massive porn-hub style place that, while it DID contain some CP, also contained every other kind of porn under the sun, most of which was perfectly legal. The men on the list had paid to access the site but there was actually no way to tell what content they had looked at. Even in cases where all charges were dropped, lives, careers and reputations were still ruined! This is why people worry.

 No.10147

I noticed the soft ban on Tor exit nodes that was kinda annoying when this new site launched is back. I guess that's in response to the CP spammer, so it's hard to argue with that. But I hope that's just temporary until he has given up.

 No.10159

>>10137
This is a bit diffrent issue because as you said yourself charges were dropped.
and those men could sue government for damages because of slander.
The main problem for them was not CP but the fact that they paid for plain porn.

This is in fact common threat as some companies threaten to sue you for downloading porn torrents. and although the chance of them winning is slim you probably do not want your interests get public, so many people just pay.

Of course if you are worrying that your porn interests will get public that's a real issue because if some investigation will happen every user will get some visit. and in the typical police strategy the first sentence after Hi, will be "you were downloading CP" as the only way how they convict people is by getting their confession.

 No.10161

"Your IP address is listed in rbl.efnet.org." strikes again and blocks comments.

Please admins, I really appreciate your work, but rbl.efnet.org is really one of the more stupid undiscriminating spam blacklists out there because it routinely blocks Tor exits and you should eliminate it from the blacklists gurochan.cx uses.

 No.10162

>>10161

I second that. rbl.efnet.org does not block Tor exits with reason but out of principle. From their site:

"The collected sources are as follows:…

Scanned TOR exit node proxies"

So if you do not want to ban Tor users on principle ( and I would curious to know the reasons for that) please lose rbl.efnet from your blacklists.

 No.10166

>>10162

Maybe they don't want people from TOR to spam CP like it happened when the old site was down and you could only access it from an onion link

 No.10167

>>10166
Don't know if they loosened restrictions, but the CP spam is back.



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