I know it isn't related to gurochan's main topic, that is guro, but I feel comfortable here and not sure of a better place to ask. I, like, tried google search it, but didn't find anything exactly like what I'm looking for.
What I find to be the greatest thing about the Strike Witches anime is how it handles girl not wearing anything over their panties, like pants or skirts. It is just a norm in that world and no one questions it and no one finds it erotic. There is also a great excuse for the camera to often focus on panties because the charachters fly and it just makes sense to place a camera behing a flying charachter. While it is undoubdatly done to please the eyes of audience, it is easy to pretend that it is indeed just natural. Like a special case of suspence of disbelief, only not regarding the story, but regarding the presense of panties all over the frame. It is easy to make oneself believe that it doesn't show panties purposefully, but rather doesn't see a reason to avoid showing them because it finds nothing indecent in them. And the best thing is how no charachter is ever concerned about it in any way, even when there are men involved, they don't see the lack of pants as shameful or erotic same way they don't see the lack of paranja as such, in fact in a Western country when you look at any random girl on the street it doesn't even come to your mind to notice she's not wearing a paranja because you're not expecting her too, and it would rather seem more uncommong and eye-catching if she did. So the same works for pants on girls in the Strike Witches anime. Also, the charachters don't just pose there with their lack of pants showing off their panties to the camera, they just go on with their buisness, there's a main story going on that has nothing sexual about it, so the more you keep watching the more even you, the viewer, stop noticing anything unusual about them not wearing pants, as it just shifts out of focus when you try following the story. But on the other hand it also doesn't forget to catch some natural-looking patsushots every so often, so you can still enjoy its eroticism, but at the same time it's kinda pure? Like the way it does look erotic on screen but is considered pure in-universe, makes you being able to enjoy both sides? Or maybe to better put it, makes you being able to enjoy the eroticism while not feeling dirty? Something like that.
So, I was thinking, might there be more of that? Or maybe even more extreme? Like take the same Strike Witches, but make them not wear any panties too, and make it casual the same way it is handled in the anime? An anime series like that would be impossible on TV, but manga like that can exist, right? Also preferably with loli or at least relatively young girls with no oversized breasts and asses.
Some other examples I know that are close, but not perfect:
- Saki. I haven't actually watched the anime or read the manga, but from what I've heard and saw on some pictures there's a girl whose casual clothes are very skimply and seem to imply no panties under a skirt that looks so short the other charachters would certainly have a glimpes of her pussy now and then (though it seems less risky in the anime then in the manga). There's especially one frame where she sits with one knee bent, exposing her pussy to whoever sits opposite to her. And, I can's tell for sure, as, like I've said, I haven't really read or watched it, but it seems like she and other charachters alike are similarly unconcerned about it (or maybe that's just my wishful thinking?) Another thing that is exacly like what I want is that her clothing isn't the focus, the main story is unrelated to anything sexual, while her choise of clothes is just a part of her charachter design, same way different charachters have different hair colors. So there were pros so far, but then come the cons: first of all, it seems like she's just a side charachters that doesn't appear so much, and all the other girls seem to have their clothes be pretty normal (even the skimpily-clad girl herself seems to spend half the time in a totally normal maid uniform). Second, I'm pretty sure the camera never actually goes under the skirt to show her presumably uncovered pussy, as it doesn't have an adult rating, but the way this is purpousefully avoided brings up awareness of how it is still actually indecent. I can imagine there be a scene where the camera cuts to another shot just before a bare pussy would be revealed, but the way I want it is for the camera to stay there as if there is no specific reason to cut right here.
Then again, if I'm mistaken somewhere in my opinion of Saki and it is actually closer to what I seek, please tell me, and I'll go read or watch it rigth away (also do tell if anime or manga is better then).
- Sasami-san@gambaranai. I've seen the anime (don't remember if there's a manga it's based upon or is it original?) and I don't really remember it that well, but I do remember towards the end there were several episodes with charachters in the hot springs going around naked (or mostly so? But I'm almost sure I remember them totally naked) but with it never being the focus, because unlike usual hot spring episoes it wasn't a filler, there was actually a story going on. Or maybe it was like the charachters undressed for the filler episode, but didn't dress again when the story kicked back in. I don't really remember well, but I remember I totally liked how the nudity was handled there. It was almost perfect, the only contra point I can think of is how the nudity was excused by the fact they were bathing, so it's not like it was casual by itself, it was just casual because it was during bathing.
- Dance In The Vampire Bund. I've read first chapter of it, the loli heroine is dressed in only her panties (which are pretty skimpy too) through the most of it, especially as some action ensues and there's just no time to think of modesty when they have to think of how to survive. However, I already see how it's not what I'm looking for: first, she wears panties. There's plenty anime and manga with girls in bikinis and it is not what I'm looking for. The fact she only wears panties and not a bra helps a bit, but not much. In the end of the chapters she puts on a cloak, so if she was wearing that without panties and also unfastened so that her nude body is seen underneeth, that would be great, probably even better than plain nudity. Second, the charachters do see nudity as erotic. The MC tries to act like he doesn't because she's just a child and he wouldn't be excited by a child, and the loli teeses him with her nudity, trying to make him admit he's excited. If it was 'nude Strike Witches' I want, neither of them would be aware her nudity is something to be excited about.
Again, please do tell me if it gets better in casual nutidy department.
P.S. I've just looked at the anime's OP and it has the loli dance in a pretty risky outfit, but it defies the laws of physics to make sure her nipples are always covered. Whould be pefrect if it was just casually revealing them like it's not a big deal, but it's just impossible for a TV anime, right?
- KonoSuba has Aqua with a short dress with seemingly no panties underneeth, but there's actually to little of focus on it in this case. And the camera never goes under her skirt either. So it falls under the same catrgory as Saki, I guess, together with any other anime that kinda makes it look like a certain girl is going commando, but that's it. I mean, this way it is almost perfectly casual okay ('amlost' because the camera purpousefully avoids actually looking under the skirt, and only teases you with it), but this way you can't enjoy it as erotic either.
- Umisho. This is nowhere near perfect, but I just want to tell that I did try reading it and didn't find it anything like I want. The title says nude swimming club, but instead there's just one girl who swims in the nude, and she's not doing it in the club either, she also explicitly states how she is embarrassed when seen naked by a boy, only exception is if the boy is her love interest (of course the idiotic MC doesn't take the hint. Which is why Strike Witches is so perfect without a male main charachter).
- Prisma Illya. I know it's not anything like what I've descrbed, but there's something about it that I can't put into words that makes me enjoy it the same way. I don't know.
I want to also state that while you usual ecchi where the male MC constantly gets to see girls' panties and grope their tits and get all embarrassed or excited about it, is not what I'm looking for, even a hentai CAN BE okay as long as the sex is casual in the same way or between the more traditional sex scenes there are scenes with casual nudity, charachters going around nude or effectively nude while not caring about it, just because they just so happened to not put their clothes back on after sex. Actually if it has, like, a girl casually go to school bottomless with fresh cum leaking from her pussy and everyone can see it but no one makes a big deal about it, so she just goes on with her business like attending classes and chatting with friends or transofrming into a magical girl and saving the world from even aliens, while the camera just so happens to show her bare cum-leaking pussy every now and then just because there is no reason to avoid such shots, that would be perfect.
What else... if there's a story like that, I would try reading it too... actually I think all of the erotic stories I write that are not guro, are this (with lots more of sex, which is also necessarily all casual). But no matter how I think of it, anime or manga can convey it much better. Cause it can both tell a story and show a nude charachter at the same time. Just take any manga or anime and have it all be the same except the charachters are naked or effectively naked, and that's it. In literature though you don't see the charachter being nude with your eyes, so to make the reader appreciate her nude body you have to explicitly write about her being nude and point out to the parts of her body, but that again shifts the focus from the story to nudity.
Some pictures to better picture what I'm talking about:http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/302258?pool_id=1536
Take this uniform and apply to any 'cute girls doing cute things' anime and that would be perfect.http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1088995?pool_id=1536
Here is some witch studying a book while being effectively naked. Her pussy is covered by her leg, but it is done in a natual way, so it's actually okay. Now to make it perfect make her a charachter of any, like, magical girl anime, where she would do all the things magical girls do, while neither she nor other charachters would pay attention to the way she is clothed, and that would be perfect.http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/916993?pool_id=1536
Here's another magical girl, but he way her pussy and nipples are covered stands out to be unnatural. So put her in a magical show like the precious girl, and it would be almost perfect, though the censoring would stand out.http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/291983?pool_id=1536
Here the girls are nude on the beach. But it makes it seem like they're only nude because they're on the beach and would not be as comfortable with nudity if they weren't. So if it was a part of an actual story, it would be just a filler beach episode, then they would be clothed and keep be so during the meaningful part of the story. The episode itself would be not perfect for being filler, and it only being one episode would make the whole series hardly worth it.http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1343376?pool_id=1536
And this girl looks like she's comfortable with not being properly dressed because she's at home. So if it was a part of an actual story, it would be just a short dressing up scene, then she would be clothes and keep be so during the meaningful part of the story. Far from perfect.http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1952130?pool_id=1536
Bonus points for nudity in the snow.http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1872844?pool_id=1536
This girl has quite some clothes, but both her pussy and nipples are in perfect view. A perfect combination.http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1211848
This one is a good example of relation of nudity and story: the story is apparently about a war and could be the same without anu nudity, but practical nudity just happens to be the uniform (would be even better without panties, but I like how one girls is totally casual about winding her pussy and another just put off her panties entirely). Just like Strike Witches, right? Now if only it was an actual story and not just one picture.
And here's example of how it can be a part of a hentai manga:https://exhentai.org/g/943752/fc2132c346/
Though what I'm looking for is more something where sex and nudity would just be a treat for eyes, while some actual story going on on the same time (like, again, in Strike Witches, that is, if it had sex).
So, again, the question is, can you suggest something like what I've described above? If Strike Witches exist, certainly there should be something more like that?