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 No.35280

It would be a good idea to have a thread where we could help each other find resources and help beginners get into making 3D porn.

I have been wanting to visualize a couple of my stories for quite some time now but I don't really know where to begin. Finding 3D porn tutorials on YouTube isn't possible, so how did everybody learn?

A lot of people probably just download 3D software and play around for 100 hours but some of us don't have that much time to dedicate just for trial and error so let's help each other out! We all want more porn and the easier it is to get started the better.

 No.35281

Here are tools I've seen other people use:
- Blender
- SourceFilmMaker
- Garry's Mod
- Poser
- Second Life
- Custom Maid 3D 2
- 3D custom girl
- DAZ Studio
- Honey Select
- PlayHome
- MikuMikuDance (MMD)

Did I miss any? Blender is high-tier but could be useful for making small objects that you import into other programs. There are of course also other similar programs like Blender (like Maya for example) and I guess you could also use Unreal Engine or Unity to make 3D porn.

I've come to the conclusion that DAZ Studio is a pretty good beginner program, although I haven't tried it myself yet. Am I wrong? It's free and it seems to be easy to pose characters.

 No.35282

Something that I've wondered about is how to get stuff for your scene though.

Like for example I doubt that DAZ comes with a little girl 3D model with a pussy. Usually they don't have anything at all between the legs for any of the default models. I know of a open-source program called MakeHuman where you can generate models for all ages but they don't have any genitalia.

And where do you find things like a gag? Sexy lingerie? A needle??

That's what made me create this thread. Searching around I haven't been able to find this information. There's a lot of impressive stuff being posted here on gurochan so I hope someone will take mercy on a beginner and tell me how you do it. And then by making this thread the information will help other beginners as well, not just me.

 No.35283

Here are a couple URLs I know of that have some models. Think login might be needed to see loli on the two first? I guess Blender can be used to convert between formats. I read that DAZ Studio supports basic .obj imports.

https://mmda.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list
https://rule34hentai.net/post/list/model_release/
http://sfmlab.com/
(not free →) https://www.renderotica.com/Store/cat/4170_3d-Content

Everything seems so spread out and unorganized however, maybe one of you know of a much better way to find things besides randomly stumbling over it? Is there a super collection to download maybe?

 No.35285

>>35282
The choice of software largely depends on your style requirements.


If you want realistic pictures and good flexibility you can choose daz3d

Depending on your moral beliefs you can either buy all content properly or just download everything for free for example here https://3d-load.net/ or many other similar sites.

There are certain basic packages that you absolutely must-have, like Genesis 3 and/or 8 male and female "New genitalia for Victoria" )to add missing pussies and "growing up" for lolis.

For girls and boys look for "angel wings" models although models he makes are a bit too cute and too clean. But you can mix different models and use adult skins.

Everything else can be downloaded on demand. Do not download Victoria 4 models or any other non G3-G8 . except for maybe clothes and hair.

If you want to make really cute young lolis and shotas you will need "anime head morphs"
https://www.sharecg.com/v/88934/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Anime-Head-for-Genesis-8-Female
https://sharecg.com/v/85535/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Anime-Head-for-Genesis-3-Female
just add a little of anime-style to get desired results.

there is one issue with hair when you try to use long hair on loli characters it will be messed up, so either use short hair or instead of fitting it, just parent it on the head. but you will see that yourself

I would recommend creating a separate folder easily accessible folder on separate HDD for all Daz content because if you try to use default one on your primary SSD you will quickly fill it up.

also if you want photorealistic rendering you will need at least 8Gb Nvidia video card if you don't have such, you will need to use 3delight rendering which does not look that good on real humans.

This should be more than enough to get started and if you need certain thing later which you can't find just ask or better tell what kind of story you want to render because lots of obscure stuff is quite scattered all around and nobody can tell you where to get it in advance.

generally when creating a story large chunk of time is spent on searching for the stuff you need and making characters look good.

 No.35291

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>>35285
Thanks a lot dude! Wow, that 3d-load.net site is a treasure trove of stuff. Categorized, searchable, easy to download. That's EXACTLY what I'm looking for! That site looks so good I kind of immediately wonder what the hell we would do if it went down. Many preview images don't load though, I just get the "parental advisory explicit content" placeholder. Can't see any login or instruction on how to turn that off?

After watching various tutorials on YouTube between DAZ and Blender I'm a bit conflicted. The new Blender 2.80 interface is fantastic compared to the old one I fooled around with in the past. And with Blender's open-source nature you just download and go, meanwhile with DAZ you have to make an account, download some kind of install manager, tie that to your account, log into the program… Almost feels like DAZ will spy on what I'm doing with how difficult they make it just to run the program.

So I'm kind of thinking that maybe I should just learn Blender from the get go? It's possible to save/load and apply poses there as well, might just be a better time investment. But I've no idea about clothing, that seems very easy in DAZ. Although if you want to create some kind of half-dressed pose in the middle of taking off her clothes maybe it isn't so easy?

After your fantastic tip(s) it would be a shame not to use the resources in 3d-load.net though. Hmm, wonder if there's a way to import them in Blender…

 No.35292

By "wonder if there's a way to import them in Blender" I mean in a way without installing DAZ at all, btw. I realize you can probably export your scene in DAZ and then import it into Blender, but it would be nice if there was a way to use these DAZ files without installing DAZ at all. Probably not because there are sliders and stuff but it would be very nice!

There's so much on 3d-load.net, how did he even get all of this? He must have been collecting for a very long time.

sharecg.com also have a ton of stuff (thanks for that URL as well), though more of a mixed bag and not as comfy to browse or however I should describe it. I could see how you'd be at risk of running out of disk space after a few hours browsing these sites.

Btw you wrote "or many other similar sites" in >>35285 please share more URLs if you have them. If not for me but for other people checking this thread (I set its title the way I did for others to find it easily). If 3d-load.net ever goes down it's always good to have as many alternatives as possible.

 No.35293

>>35291
Yes, you sort of can import them into blender. but not sure if it will work with rigged characters. and it will be quite a hassle because it is not only geometry but a lot of textures too.

It will not hurt to try blender and you actually will even need it anyway, but I doubt if it will be that easy or even good idea in the long run, because those applications are fundamentally different from each other.
In Daz you are essentially playing with dolls. You dress them manipulate their shape, pose etc, but you cannot really manipulate their geometry. although, it is super quick you just load predefined characters, environment, apply desired poses and you are done.

Blender is more like sculpting software for custom characters where you do not get a readily available library of dolls and clothes you cannot use assets interchangeably but you can do very precise and detailed geometry manipulations of your models which allows you to get very beautiful results.

usually, people use both blender and Daz because you need something like blender or Zbrush to do guro stuff, which is almost impossible with Daz alone. But working on blender seems to be pretty slow, I almost never see any artists who make bigger picture series in Blender. But also making Guro in Daz is pretty hard, you will need something extra to sculpt all that gore.

The workflow is different in Daz and blender because in Daz you essentially load a character and then try many clothes and hair until you get something right, working with Blender you already need to know what you are trying to do. You cant just try many different dresses and see which one fits best. Also if you download some blender character you can not undress them because there is nothing behind their clothes or textures are not painted.

Speaking about Daz and install manager it is not really absolutely necessary if you find a binary installer. Daz does not need to login, only install manager which you will use to download and update Daz. Daz uses text file format to store everything so you can see what's inside in the plain text.

 No.35294

>>35292
You do not really need to know all those sites, just look for some asset which you like in any store and then search it on google. or if you want to get a list of sites to look for some asset available in one site and search it on goggle

another big site which uses Megaupload https://zonegfx.com/ but it needs registering and has limited downloads

https://ps-ds.info/ those pesky slow file hosts but way more content than 3d-load
https://3dru.net/
http://topgfx.info lots of not working stuff.

usually, all those sites host pretty much same content and they are updated daily with about 5-10 new items


>By "wonder if there's a way to import them in Blender" I mean in a way without installing DAZ at all, btw.

Yes that's possible there is the Daz importer plugin but I think it will require quite a lot of adjustments.

 No.35295

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>>35293
Oh really! Glad you said that before I installed DAZ. Do you know if I can download the standalone installer without the "installer manager" from their site or do I need to find it on some shady site? Not having to log in sounds nice.

I just found this:
https://blenderartists.org/t/daz-importer/684697

It's a DAZ importer plugin for Blender and as you can see the post creation says 2017 but I checked and it has been updated since then - in fact yesterday was last update. So it should be very capable if it has been worked on for two years.

You can't use the plugin without having DAZ installed (I tried and it complained about a missing "My Library" folder from DAZ) but seems like you can set up stuff exactly the way you want it in DAZ and then just bring it over to Blender by using .duf + .json exported from DAZ. Here's a video made yesterday where he lifts over a bunch of penis morphs from DAZ to Blender:
https://www.veoh.com/watch/v141974697SJfBQxcF

(Btw concerning those "many other similar sites" you mentioned in >>35285, if you have any additional URL to share I would appreciate it.)

 No.35296

Found the manual installer "DAZStudio_4.12.0.86_Win64.exe", I simply logged in on their site and went to https://www.daz3d.com/get_studio

>>35294
Didn't see that you wrote this before I wrote >>35295. Thanks for the extra URLs! I'm sure whoever finds this thread later will be thankful as well.

Yeah I also dislike those "pesky slow file hosts", which is why I got so happy to see that 3d-load.net just uses Google Drive. Biggest reason I dislike TurboBit, Uploaded, GigaPeta etc (besides usually having to wait between downloads) is that people get paid for using them. That's why they are so popular, TurboBit pays for example ps-ds.info for my click. I have no problem with pirates when they just copy stuff but I don't like it when pirates earn money from other people's work. I don't think mega.nz (or mediafire.com) offer uploaders money for delivering traffic, which is why those filesharing never use mega.nz even though it is clearly the best out of those types of file-sharing sites.

 No.35314

>>35296
It woud be very interesting to see your progress.

 No.35318

Hello, if I may, i have a simple question. If i download a product, say, from 3dload, i have to install it by hand or can i use "DAZ INSTALL MANAGER"? If I use the manager will I loose access to daz3d and my already bought products?

I wish to try the stuff before I buy, my budget is VERY limited so I can't afford to buy what is not good for my objectives.

 No.35319

>>35295
On the first glance I thought it was some kind of lazer weapon untill I saw 'Pear of Anguish'

 No.35323

>>35318
when you down load stuff from 3d-load you usually get zip file which has to be unpacked into "my library" folder
which you hopefully placed in some convenient place (you can add extra library folder in preferences)

if you buy stuff you will still get zip file which you will have to unpack manually.

Install manager is pretty useless thing it will do nothing more than download those zip files and unpack them for you if you select install checkbox and it only works on Daz store.

The only thing I use install manager is to update Daz beta.

 No.35324

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>>35314
I haven't started yet, still searching around and getting distracted. If I manage to make something that's not completely terrible I'll upload an image here. My stuff will probably be pretty tame for gurochan's standards.

>>35281
I learned of a new program today to add to this list:
- TK17 (The Klub 17)

Hard to find information about it online, I think it's kinda old? If anyone here has ever used it please share some info on it. Seems easy to make a custom girl in it from a video I found and a comment on YouTube claims that TK17 is free.

 No.35326

I dug some more on TK17 and the program is at least 12 years old at this point. Maybe even older, TK17 seems to be a modification of a different engine.

http://modsgarden.cc is the TK17 homepage. It's a forum, unfortunately registration is required just to view it. It's active, all subforums have posts made in the last 6 months and there's a lot of activity in the last 30 days. Has a bunch of shared content, models/poses/textures/animations. Maybe some could be imported into Blender? I think the models can only be read by the TK17 program though (they are settings and not meshes).
Their rules don't allow any "underage looking models" and the whole community seems pretty against non-vanilla stuff. Here's a "TK17 Comprehensive Guide": https://gist.github.com/tepiai/b6e99db602b2d8ca38bd0a16c161c0c3

I've concluded that it's probably not worth it to get into TK17 unless you want to make "normal" porn (aka boring porn). The 3D quality isn't SUPER bad but it is looking dated and I think there's additional modding required to make the TK17 3D look its best.

 No.35328

>>35326
It is interesting what kind of so tame stuff you are going to make :)
or it is not that easy to make hardcore stuff. :) One guro picture is sort of worth >10 normal pictures in terms of required effort and it still does not look perfect.


Why do you care so much about importing everything into blender?
there is no shortage of models so no need to import people.
you are more likely going to need various props and environments.



I would recommend you to check
Custom Maid 3D 2
or
Koikatsu!

I did not manage to make it work but it has quite a lot of mods and they make nice looking 2d anime pictures which is pretty much impossible to do with Daz and blender and since it is 2d you can later easily edit them in photoshop.

Also, you can try CLIP STUDIO
which you will need to edit your pictures, adding speech bubbles

Clip studio is 2d drawing program but it has 2d option too although it is more intended just to make base picture and then you finissh it in 2d

 No.35338

I was too lazy to read the whole thread but since I make 3d i thought i'll chip in. so:

1) For modelling, go Blender, it's the industry standard, there's tons of youtube tutorials and it's free.

2) For posing actors and arranging scenes, only DAZ3d Studio. PoserPro is weird, has little content to buy and it's rendering engine is sh*t compared to IRAY which is built in DAZ.

3) Someone mentioned a website with pirated content for DAZ… well, that's not really an elegant way to do this, but you can at least download some stuff and try them out - if everything works as expected and you like it, just pay for it later.

4) Figures I use: Mostly Daz Originals (so Victoria 8, Bridgette 8, etc…). They are the most predictable and compatible with clothing and stuff. I avoid anything that's not Genesis8. Also, be CAREFUL when you buy aftermarket figures, a lot of them have broken mesh topology, weird textures, and so on… I only use adult models.

5) For genitalia:
- New Gens for Victoria 8 - don't get fooled by it's name, it's compatible with almost all Genesis8 figures (not only Victoria) and looks really great
https://www.renderotica.com/store/sku/57733_New-Gens-For-Victoria-8

- Golden Palace - also nice but I prefer New Gens
https://www.renderotica.com/store/sku/57311_Golden-Palace-For-Genesis-8-Female

- For shemales, Futalicious:
https://www.renderotica.com/store/sku/57453_Futalicious-For-Genesis-8-Female

6) Scenery: god there's too much of it, just do your research :P Most scene packs on DAZ store come with props you can arrange in your own way etc etc…

7) For extreme/dolcett stuff:
- Davo's Hell's Kitchen
- Davo's Cannibal Kitchen

ugh… making 3d porn is such a broad topic we should have a separate section for that, not just separate thread.

 No.35339

>>35328
I'm currently using Affinity Photo for speech bubbles and general photo editing, great software for around $50. And reads .psd files and photoshop brushes :D

 No.35343

>>35338
>Someone mentioned a website with pirated content for DAZ… well, that's not really an elegant way to do this, but you can at least download some stuff and try them out - if everything works as expected and you like it, just pay for it later.
Some words on that aspect for those who care about piracy: Daz infrastructure is deliberately created as a money sucker to facilitate unnecessary sales so because of that, piracy is actually a pretty adequate response to immoral business practices. Of course, content creators are not guilty of that but they benefit from it too.


hehe
if you only use adult models you do not even have a clue into what mess you get when you try to use young lolis and everything behaves not as you want.
also, it is not enough just to use a model you have to make it looks like the desired character type. innocent/dominant/silly/super beatiful/natural/ etc
so you get to play with quite some adjustments.


But I wonder where all that stuff about broken models comes from?
I never really encountered anything like that. Except that sometimes models do not fit expectations. like a mannequin for g3 geografts have totally broken UVs even if it is sold on Daz store.


there is another problem with little boys because all available characters are quite uncute and also there are no much morphs available to adjust male characters and very few boy characters available in general. So sometimes the better idea is to use girl character instead and add a penis.

 No.35401

I would like to say something more useful.

But for now I can only concur with everything that Onix has said.

 No.35404

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I tried getting something done and the DAZ installer did support "work offline", however then you have to go to their homepage and generate a serial number for your free product. FINE. But then turns out it didn't actually install any resources, even though it's a "product bundle" that is supposed to come with a ton of stuff (see image). Pretty ironic it has the text "Where are my files?" and then tells me to click something that doesn't exist.

So I tried downloading "Genesis 8 Starter Essentials" and others manually. Zip files, this should be easy. Wrong! Where am I supposed to put them? I decided to use a different folder path to "My Library" but is that even used? It still creates "C:\Users\<account>\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library". Tried extracting in both, with/without subfolders, with/without the "Content" folder, tried refreshing in the program and restarting it. Nothing shows up. Tried guides:
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/219546/how-do-you-manually-install-content
https://www.deviantart.com/sickleyield/journal/Tutorial-Installing-Content-in-DAZ-Studio-508155677
Maybe you need to be a rocket scientist because it STILL doesn't work for me.

So I thought I'd try re-installing with the default path instead. Turns out there is no mention of DAZ in Window 10's list of installed programs, even though I noticed it said "creating uninstaller" when I installed DAZ. There was something else listed there though: The DAZ3D installer also installes "DAZ PostgreSQL CMS" without telling me what it does. Called it a "service", as in "background service"? Can't see it in the list of Window's services though, unless they gave it a strange name and/or try to hide it. Anyway, tried uninstalling that one and DAZ warns me that it'll break all kinds of things but still doesn't actually tell me what it is for! I can reason that it's some kind of database-content-management-service-thing but I'd still have like them to tell me what it does exactly.

Demotivational first experience with DAZ3D and I still don't like how complicated they make things with accounts you have to log into on their homepage and serial keys for free software. Plus the problems above. Turns out they at least created a "Remove-DAZStudio4_Win64.exe" inside the install directory that managed to get rid of the program. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.

>>35328
>Why do you care so much about importing everything into blender?
It's because I'd rather learn how to use Blender than DAZ3D, but if I can use DAZ to generate the models/clothes/scenes in an easy way that would be great.
Then I can use Blender's superior tools and rendering. I think as time goes by Blender will only get more and more superior in terms of what you can do and how good it will look, not only because it's open-source but Blender has gotten a lot of money from big companies to fund further development. AMD, nVidia, Google, even Adidas for some reason and the list goes on: https://fund.blender.org/
>Custom Maid 3D 2 / Koikatsu
I've got a little mixed feelings with these, it's great for anime look but I've noticed a lot of people share the same backgrounds and props. I've dug a little for stuff and Japs always seem to password-protect their downloads for some reason so you need to also dig for the password. Also there's the whole Japanese language barrier, maybe there's translations out there but it's a hassle.
>Clip studio
Thanks for that tip! I should be able to add text in Blender though.

>>35338
>PoserPro is weird
I read (in the "how-do-you-manually-install" URL above) that DAZ originated from Poser so it makes sense that "it's poser but better".
>just pay for it later
Maybe if I someday somehow could get money from what I do sure, but as someone just learning I think it's important to be able to pirate things to keep spirits up and learn quickly. The prices for some of these things are through the roof.
>Scenery
A perk with using Blender is that you can rip scenes from games use those as well. Takes some work but I bet it takes a bit more work to rip them into DAZ (I guess you could go through Blender for that).
>For extreme/dolcett stuff
Cheers!
>making 3d porn is such a broad topic we should have a separate section for that
That would be nice if it was organized in some way, this thread could probably get very long and messy with a bunch of repetition.

3d-load.net is down right now ("Error 521 Web server is down"), hope it returns because I had not downloaded everything I had my eyes on!

>>35401
Maybe you have a resource site to share? Or can share some technique or describe your workflow in how you make your stuff? Programs? Anything is welcome.

 No.35405

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>>35404
Noticed in my own image that "PostgreSQL" was listed in the bundle, guess that explains that (see image). It's not a background service and only starts up when needed, that's what I like to hear. Too many download platforms, managers and background services these days.

 No.35409

>>35404
You should not be surprised that you face problems in setting up pretty complex software ;) especially if you think about long term and do it not very standard way ;)

so my recommendation will be to use default inhalation first and leave everything in the default folder "C:\Users\<account>\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library" and put your stuff there because you can move it anywhere later
That way you at least will not that demotivated by few small problems ;)
But still, do not expect everything to go smoothly on either software.
Daz allows you to add as many content folders as you like you can set them in
Edit-preferences-content-content directory manager
Ideally, you should create different folders for power and Daz content to have less mess.
poser content is when you only have "runtime" folder and Daz content is when you have more than just runtime folder or no runtime folder.

I am not sure why Daz uses that "DAZ PostgreSQL CMS" for but looks like not absolutely necessary and can be turned off As I understand it is somehow related to "smart content" function which you probably will not use.

>It's because I'd rather learn how to use Blender than DAZ3D, but if I can use DAZ to generate the models/clothes/scenes in an easy way that would be great.

You are kinda thinking backward because you are supposed to use Blender for modeling and daz for posing those models, not the opposite. Importing stuff into Blender to pose it makes almost no sense. But I think you will eventually notice it yourself.
It is quite a stupid idea to think that you will save time by using only one program because you will need a lot of them and if you know how to use one you sort of know how to use them all

like for example here is what I use:

Daz for posing
Poser for converting binary pmd fines into daz
Zbrush to edit geometry and make morphs
Clip studio to add text
Photoshop to edit textures
CrazyBump to create normal and bump maps


Yes, 3d-load died just now for some reason. I hope it will come back because it happened several times already.


Also speaking about techniques, I think you should first finish installing your software and then we can think about wahst to do next
I don't know if you have 8GB Nvidia card, but if not, You will face a very big demotivation soon :)
and even more, demotivation if you will try to render a Scene with 3delight
So I want to calm you down that it is not that bad as it may look like ;)

 No.35410

>>35409
>I don't know if you have 8GB Nvidia card, but if not, You will face a very big demotivation soon :)

Yes… that is a problem for people owning low-tier PC's or AMD Radeon cards. My 11gb 1080ti is not enough sometimes, I wouldn't even consider having anything less than 8Gb of video memory. So, for everyone wanting to try 3d for real, save up for RTX 2070 Super or higher :P

 No.35411

>>35404
>So I tried downloading "Genesis 8 Starter Essentials" and others manually. Zip files, this should be easy. Wrong!

Ok, so… a guide to Daz Content folder for noobs:
1. Open DAZ. Doesn't matter if you log in or not.
2. On the TOP MENU hit EDIT -> PREFERENCES
3. Click on a TAB called CONTENT
4. Click on CONTENT DIRECTORY MANAGER button
5. From Contents Sets list, expand "DAZ Studio Formats" with the [+] icon
6. Viola, there you see all your content folders. Mine is in D:\Daz_Assets
7. When Installing new content, unpack the downloaded zip. Navigate to a folder inside the unpacked content until you see other folders like:
data
runtime
People
Props
…etc
Copy all these folders and paste into your content folder (in my case, D:\Daz_Assets)

 No.35412

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>>35411
sry i fucked up the image

 No.35414

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>>35412
Now, go to CONTENT LIBRARY tab like shown in the pic, and right click on DAZ Studio Formats -> Refresh.

Now when you open up this folder you will see your content.

Be advised that manual installation does NOT add items to Smart Content.

 No.35415

>>35410
>So, for everyone wanting to try 3d for real, save up for RTX 2070 Super or higher :P

While this is pretty big problem for photo realistic pictures, but you can use 3delight rendering with pretty good and quick results too.
If you deliberately render anime/cartoon style pictures results will be excellent.
The serious problem with 3deligt is that it cannot handle transparent refractive materials. But it also gives you certain options like disabling shadows

So this is not the end of the world if you don't have god video card.

 No.35434

>>35415
Totally agree on what you said, but I just assumed most people would aim for realism. If you intend to do unrealistic or anime stuff then yes, 3Delight is good and much faster than Iray.

The problem is, there's not much stuff made for 3DL anymore. Almost all vendors target Iray exclusively when they release new products, with the exception of Daz Originals and a few individual products. OFC you could just convert shaders, but it never worked good for me.

 No.35505

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>>35409
Thing is if I find this fun and keep doing it for years I will become an expert, and it's just more useful to be an expert in Blender than in Daz. Maybe I want to apply those skills into creating a game character or whatever else in the future, I bet Blender is more suitable for that kind of stuff than Daz.
Also the benefit with using Daz to create something that you then import into Blender is that if you want to change something you can just hit TAB and modify the mesh, useful if you want to make a unique knife or special gag or something.
I just noticed some little things that would drive me nuts in Daz, for example scrolling with the mouse zooms the camera in reverse to how many programs usually do it and moving around in the world feels better in Blender. I realize there's probably an easy way to reverse the scroll wheel but still.

I've got expensive new hardware from 2019 so hopefully rendering times won't drive me nuts. Not top tier stuff but it's not an old laptop or something like that.
Useful info about a .zip being a poser asset if there's only a "runtime" folder btw.

Looks like https://3d-load.net/ is up again!

>>35414
Thanks for the detailed guide, I tried again today and got it working! Only tried Genesis8FemaleStarterEssentials so far but it felt good seeing something show up. The problem was that first of all I thought the Smart Content tab was basically the same as the Content Library tab, only with a different layout, and second of all I didn't think I would need to do a manual refresh.

Successfully able to use custom path(s), different one for daz-format and poser-format as recommended. Removed their "hidden" paths pointing to "C:\Users\Public\Documents\My DAZ 3D Library".

Should I also change the "CMS Cluster Directory" and "Daz Connect Data" paths? Are those important? My backup program doesn't cover the default paths, if they aren't needed in order to restore my project in case my disk fries I don't really care. Got some kind of warning when I tried changing one of them so I left them alone for now.

 No.35506

File: 1575856545511.png (52.24 KB, 2000x1270, content-warning.png)

If there's a way to get rid of these images and show the actual screenshot on 3d-load.net I would love to know about it.

 No.35507

Yeah, that 3dload is still unstable just went down again.
But it is good to see that you managed to make something work already.

>>35506
You will not get rid of those because those images are just "preview" to prevent NSFW images on 3d load

you need to follow the link to see full picture.


>Should I also change the "CMS Cluster Directory" and "Daz Connect Data" paths? Are those important?

as far as I know, those to not matter you only need to care about "content" folder

Even if you delete or reinstall Daz later all you need to do is to point it back to that content library and everything will be back as it was before.

just if you are getting more serious about this you can consider multiple forlder for different content type

if you are thinking about importing stuff into blender You can also download old poser content, especially hair. because it is quite useful.

>I've got expensive new hardware from 2019 so hopefully rendering times won't drive me nuts.


It does not matter how old is your hardware, mine is like 10 years old collected from EMP scrap LOL
You need Nvidia video card with at least 8gb memory maybe if you use Blender you can get away with AMD cards too.
The problem is not even rendering times but fitting your scene into video memory as with the new Nvidia denoiser you can render picture in about 5- 10 minutes on 1080 video cards with the new top video cards you can do same in about 2-3 minutes.
But if your scene does not fit into memory you are pretty screwed.

>Maybe I want to apply those skills into creating a game character or whatever else in the future, I bet Blender is more suitable for that kind of stuff than Daz.


Like we both said to you those are totally different programs with a different purpose if you want to create new items of characters blender is a good choice because you just can't do it in Daz at all but you will not be able to fit characters with clothes and do other daz library-based stuff in blender.

For example in Daz you can fit any clothes from almost any figure on any other figure with just few clicks also you can change figures by adjusting sliders like selecting eye size distance between eyes, figure age expressions and poses, change a girl into a boy.
This is not possible in blender.

But oh well, you just need to try it ;)

 No.35508

File: 1575859302818.jpg (1014.8 KB, 3840x2160, test.jpg)

Babby's first Genesis 8 render! No clothes and no pussy, but I did add some hair. Re-saved from 16mb PNG to 1mb JPG because let's not waste storage and bandwidth on this thing.

Jail scene used: https://3d-load.net/props/i3ddt-detained-prop-and-pose-collection-g8f/

Don't know why she's so dark because I created a spotlight that shines right at her, she's bright as the sun inside the DAZ editor's viewport. Even changed the spotlight properties to have high render priority but that didn't do anything. Maybe it was because I reduced Max Samples in the render settings from 5000 to 138 or so.

I'll see later how difficult it is to get this DAZ project into Blender and make a render over there.

 No.35509

>>35507
>you need to follow the link to see full picture.
ah didn't think about that. very strange they care about some naughty images on a pirate site such as this.

3d-load says "Our site is coming soon We are doing some images optimization on our site. It will take a while…Thank you for your patience!" right now, I hope that means they will offer to display adult images as well

>just if you are getting more serious about this you can consider multiple forlder for different content type

ah you mean have several paths to separate hair, people etc, not just poser and non-poser. that could be useful to make "uninstalling" (deleting) content a little easier as well, it seems to be a pain in the butt to do manually.

i've got an nvidia card but if Daz works poorly on non-nvidia cards all the more reason to try and work in Blender instead.

>if you want to create new items […] you just can't do it in Daz

when I downloaded Daz I noticed they also offered a program called Hexagon, looked it up on youtube and it's a simple 3D editor program. so at least they have the ability to create new stuff even if not in the Studio program itself. there was some simple way to work in Hexagon and have it appear quickly in Daz Studio basically just by tabbing between the programs, looked pretty convenient.

 No.35515

>>35508
Yes, you made it too dark, but congratulations with your first render ;)
to change brightness you need to go to the render settings- editor- tone mapping and tinker with exposure values.
Spotlight priority will not change anything, but you can change light intensity for each spotlight.
also, you can try setting sun/sky environment in render settings too.

Max samples will change render quality but not brightness. You will need about 200-1000 for good images also do not forget to turn on post denoiser(all options).
although I usually do not care about max samples but just wait until picture looks good enough


>ah you mean have several paths to separate hair, people etc


Yes, I men that but only for poser content, because Daz already organizes everything well, but poser has very idiotic folder structure where everything is mixed together and scattered through several folders so if you throw everything into a single folder you will have trouble finding wahst belongs to what and where is your stuff at all.
I made this mistake myself and now I have to live with all that terrible mess and gradually reorganize everything manually.

 No.35524

File: 1575914403280.jpg (312.44 KB, 3840x2160, blender eevee no denoise.jpg)

Tried getting the .duf DAZ project into Blender but kept getting errors using the plugin I mentioned in >>35295. Too bad, maybe the problem was that I had both an environment and a character at the same time? The error message was very cryptic.

So I tried exporting to collada (.dae) in DAZ and importing it in Blender. It worked but the pose information was gone, she was just standing there in default A-pose. Also her eyes were white and eyelashes were solid black. Was the same problem before when I tried with the MakeHuman program. Supposedly it is fixable by manually changing materials to glass and/or include transparency or something but that's above my low level right now so I just changed her pupils to pink.

Then I made some awkward pose, which felt tedious and I'm not sure an arm should be able to bend that way at the elbow. Getting a different facial expression was a pain in the ass, there's a million bones around the lips, so I just raised an eyebrown. Not even that was simple.

Camera or light info was apparently not saved in the collada so I had to set that up. Here's a render using the lower-quality Eevee engine (took 3 seconds).

 No.35525

File: 1575914506274.jpg (1013.91 KB, 3840x2160, blender cycles no denoise.jpg)

>>35524
Here's a render with the cycles engine (128 samples). Without denoise. Took around 3 minutes.

 No.35526

File: 1575914809966.jpg (278.15 KB, 3840x2160, blender cycles yes denoise.jpg)

>>35525
And finally here's the same but with denoise. I didn't realize there was denoise available in DAZ so I can't compare it with this one but I have to say Blender's denoising is pretty impressive, it's "intel AI denoiser" which also works on AMD (I have AMD CPU). I think there's an older and simpler denoiser available as well but it won't get as good results.

So another setback, it's not as easy to just lift everything over from DAZ to Blender as I had hoped. Maybe there's another way.

 No.35531

File: 1575919165175.jpg (486.05 KB, 2160x3840, output.jpg)

Tried again with the plugin >>35295 on a new project and this time it worked! Could export poses, clothes, hair and even two characters. Guess there was some problems in the jail environment before? Didn't have anything else in MyLibrary so haven't tested with a different environment.

Rendered this image in Blender, in Daz I used two default poses for the guy and girl and in Blender I rotated him a bit and gave the girl longer nipples just to try it out.

The materials for the eyes were correct this time (better than the collada import) but her eyelashes were just black so I removed them. They looked black (incorrect) in Daz as well so I think something must have been missing or gone wrong when I added the Genesis 8 Female. The guy's eyelashes were correct but he still ended up without them in the render because when I rotated his upper body I forgot to select them, so they ended up behind his head.

Rotating both the body and clothes was easy, just had to make sure to select both the body and clothes bones before rotating. The bones looked way better than when using the collada import, which created some dummy bones that appeared to do nothing.

Quite well done this plugin. Here's a direct link to its instructions:
http://diffeomorphic.blogspot.com/p/daz-importer-version-12.html
Basically you first install it in Blender, then you install a plugin in Daz to add a "Export Basic Data" menu option (for a .json info file). Then in Daz you save your .duf project file, then export the .json file in the same folder as .duf (same name before extension). Then you import the .duf file in Blender.

 No.35533

File: 1575920100680.png (612.26 KB, 1650x1111, finding_settings_blender2.….png)

>>35531
If you have custom paths to MyLibrary or have installed Daz in a non-default location you need to set the paths in the plugin's Settings. Took a while for me to find this place in 2.8, there's a little "<" arrow icon in the top right corner next to the XYZ axis "compass". Drag it to the left and there's a vertical "DAZ Runtime" tab with the settings. Press Load/Save Settings and the "Save Default Settings" button after configuring the paths. You can then close the whole "<"-thing by grabbing the left edge and dragging all the way to the right until the "<" icon comes back.

 No.35534

>>35531
Looks like textures were not imported properly after all. I can only see diffuse layer.

Probably you will have quite some trouble to transfer everything from G8

G1-V4 woud be easier because they have less textures but also not that many options to chose.

 No.35536

File: 1575922418498.jpg (481.45 KB, 2160x3840, output_subdivision.jpg)

>>35534
I don't have the experience to tell if anything looks strange so I'll just take your word for it. Might be that I just haven't enabled something in Blender that needs to be enabled for those things to show up.

I noticed her thighs didn't look good in >>35531 so I added subdivision surface modifiers to all meshes and it made everything look much better.

 No.35542

File: 1575939582812.jpg (941.22 KB, 1920x2160, materials difference.jpg)

Skimmed through the documentation and came across this: http://diffeomorphic.blogspot.com/p/import-into-blender-version-12.html
>The DAZ importer can create materials both for the Blender Internal renderer and for Cycles, and it chooses the same engine as Blender currently uses.
So maybe that's why you think it looked strange before, I think I imported the .duf while still having Eevee set as renderer.
Made this comparison, used too much lightning and the "incorrect" version might look better at first glance but if you look at the guy's shirt texture it looks better with the correct materials. The shadow on the nose also looks better on the top version, I'm not using any denoiser or subdivision surface modifiers.

 No.35546

>>35542
It is still wrong, unless you exported 3delight version into blender.

It looks like your texture is missing translucency map and maybe specular map too
since you probably can see it yourself that blender image is very diffrent from Daz render

 No.35625

Can anyone share genesis 3 male starter essentials? and if possible genesis 8 male! Thank you very much!

 No.35634

>>35625
You could have just used google.

https://ps-ds.info/poser/bundle/125-genesis-123-starter-essentials.html

https://ps-ds.info/tags/Genesis%208%20Starter%20Essentials/

although I do not recommend using G8 males because there is just very little content available yet.


also to have more compatibility here is a best pose converter which allows you to use G3 poses on G8 directly without any modification or running scripts

https://www.deviantart.com/agentunawares/art/G3F-to-G8F-World-s-Greatest-Pose-Converter-709591348
https://www.deviantart.com/agentunawares/art/G3M-to-G8M-World-s-Greatest-Pose-Converter-709731867

 No.35639

>>35634
Thanks man I really apreciate this! I never use google I use a meta-search engine….

 No.35686

I have seen a lot of sims 3&4 sex animations and also violence animations.Both games have a violence mod.The S4 mod is particulary advance with chainsaw deaths and a lot good stuff.
Now, as I understand all the animations for Sims 3&4 are made with Blender, and I am wondering, and I'm sure it's possible, why no one made a guro mod for the sims so far.
The sex animations can be transformed into guro or snuff animation.
Imagine a simple scene where two people are having sex and he strangles her, snaps her neck or stabs her pussy?
Or, imagine a couple having sex and the third guy instead of joining for a thresome he kills the pair.
There a lot of scenarios you can thing of and the Sims provide an allready rendered and customizable enviroment for guro animations.What do you think of this?
I say a thread guro guro animations and mods made for Sims 3&4 will open up a whole new chapter say interactive guro animations!
So it's anyone interested? I would love to hear your feedback on this idea!

 No.35687

I have just spent the past 2 days glued to my computer gathering so much stuff for Daz 3d.

This programme is so easy to make so really good stuff with the right tools and plugins. I'll have to post something soon for sure.

 No.35694

File: 1576539841105.png (918.77 KB, 1080x720, gear-6.png)

>>35546
Hm, I have to reconsider whether or not it's really worth the hassle to move everything into Blender. Still think it would be more worthwhile learning Blender properly though and I'm sure it's possible to make it look better in Blender than in Daz, just me as a newbie that have no skills doing so.

Haven't really made anything since my last post, been distracted with other things. Christmas right around the corner. One thing I've noticed is how easy it is to not bother sitting down with making your own porn after jacking off. It's like motivation leaving your body, lol.

 No.35696

>>35694
Well actually if you dropped that idea to use a blender you could get a bit more motivation LOL
It is way more fun and you are mostly acting like a movie director or photographer telling your models how to pose for you.


If you insist on using blender you should stop thinking about transferring Daz assets but rather think about using a different style like in those 3d movies you see on TV.
In fact, it looks great and maybe even much better than trying to make realistic characters.
but either way, you will not be able to do it so easy and fast with blender as you can do with Daz

 No.35708

It may not be easy to make your own models in Blender to look like the quality models in the other apps, but you can make just about anything if you know how to.

There are some amazing courses for Blender out there. Unfortunately you will have to pay at least a little to do them

 No.35720


 No.35724

Why bother, when we have EVMC?

 No.35766

File: 1576776437600.jpg (1.5 MB, 1810x1166, ORIGINAL CHARACTER DO NOT ….jpg)

>>35687

Here is a little something I have been working on. I gave myself the task of making my own ideal female main character to be used in any future stories or plots I might make to then make the come to life, similar to the OP.

Personally I love the badass female assassin/secret agent aesthetic with fit bodies…plus I have a thing for curly haired redheads, so that had to be included.

Clothing and accessories I have not fully figured out yet but I really wanted to focus on the lighting and detailing of the body, skin and face, so I looked a-lot into subsurface scattering, textures or freckles and beauty marks and even slight stretch marks, hence why so much skin is shown.

The face I edited slightly in Blender, specifically the jaw and cheekbones, but I didn't mess with it too much as the morphs I played with did a good job with the look I wanted for her.

I would love to hear your thoughts and feedback, especially with me planning on making a bunch more for me to get some gory fight scenes rolling. I feel like im only just scratching the surface of this.

 No.35773

>>35766

This is great! I absolutely want to see more from you and more of her. She is beautiful.

How did you get the details like that with the skin and the sort of real time like lighting?
My renders look so flat and plain in comparison.

 No.35780

make her tits very mobile so we can play with them
Love to see tits hang

 No.35781

File: 1576867275183.jpg (2.48 MB, 1825x1302, cheeky and angry gc versi….jpg)

Here are two more I left to render over night. Focusing on facial expressions and a few different lighting tests and some slight tweaks to the model.

Hoping my next render will be more "guro like".

>>35773
Thank you for the kind words.
I used a few skin builder plugins and then photoshop to edit them a little bit more the way I specifically want.

Lights i just played around with. Lighting makes a big difference in how stuff looks so you really want to make sure you have some depth to your scene or else everything looks flat and boring.

There are a few packs you can download for lighting setups to get a grasp of his it works.

As a matter of fact the image I posted in this post has 2 different lighting setups. The first one being a HDRI map based of real world lighting in the image. The second is just a scene I created

>>35780

Hahaha. I shall make sure they are very swingy and dynamic for you ;)

 No.35782

>>35781
haha,
Looking at that woman makes me think if she is not hiding a dick somewhere looks pretty masculine. I would be pretty scared even to talk with her.
but maybe if she loses a hand or leg or gets tied she will become more cute lol

But the overall picture looks pretty good, I like the fact that she has this kind of dirty/imperfect looking skin.

 No.35783

>>35782

Lol im going to be making some other characters that are less intimidating for sure. Already got some planned…kinda.

But for now as a first test, I guess im being selfish

However yes I have some interesting things planned to do to her and others.

 No.35791

Slice of or slash those ficking tits of hers!

 No.35850

I would love to do this stuff but my pc is trash.

anyome would be willing to maybe do a request of something hard vore like, that would be awesomeeee

 No.35868

>>35850
My PC is made from 10-year-old components found in the dumpster or bought on eBay LOL
So that's is not a good excuse ;)

While I would love to do almost any request there is no time for all that :)
If I get you right about what is hard vore, that is actually a pretty hard thing to do, unless you cheat and just imply things. Soft vore is way easier.

 No.36145

The question of "What 3D program to go with for the purpose of making images and videos" is, first and foremost, one of "how much time are you willing to put in." On one hand, Source Filmmaker has a lot of assets which you can use, many close to hand via the workshop, and is simple enough that you can make renders (pictures) after an afternoon of tutorial. On the other, Blender lets you do all the same stuff *and* lets make your own assets, from the model to the texture to the maps to the animation rig to the skybox, but getting to any level beyond "posing models taken off of other websites" takes days of tutorials and weeks of practice.
I would recommend the latter option. As someone who's seen a lot of 3D porn and made a little himself, here's the thing: it's basically photography where you personally sculpt every aspect of the set. Most people forget that lighting and composition and colors all still matter, though, and that's why you can find an unlimited number of extremely low-effort renders of whatever you could possibly imagine. If you just get a bunch of high-quality assets and don't pay attention to the style consistency or the direction or the shot itself besides a vague idea, it will look like garbage and be artistic shovelware that nobody comes back to a second time. Once you get good, though, you can make anything you want, and once you get really good, you can make anything you want and have it look just like real life. Finally, having to go through all those tutorials will encourage you to go through a few more to do it right, and I will tell you, most good renders and animations are made in Blender/Maya not because they are inherently better tools but because the longer learning process makes it less likely that some lazyboner will do the bare minimum to put out crap and then keep doing that forever.
Plus, the Blender experience will translate easier into real jobs and more respectable creations, should you wish to go that route.

 No.36147

>>36145
so without artistic education any software is useless even if you put 10000h into blender

 No.36158

>>36147
What the hell is that "artistic education" ?

If you really care about art, it is all about simple trolling. You have to make something what makes people confused.

>>36145
One problem with lighting and composition is that if you set it to make look good from one angle usually it turns pretty bad when you move the camera around so to make it reasonably good all the time you have to use some kind of very uniform light which does not look that good overall. because there are no shadows and reflections.

Also, the quality is not worth that much if you can only make 1 picture a month ;)

 No.36245

File: 1578118349352.jpg (105.27 KB, 960x960, cuffs.jpg)

>>35708
>There are some amazing courses for Blender out there. Unfortunately you will have to pay at least a little to do them
Examples and links? I find it's very hard to find 3D porn tutorials, with pussy and penetration.

I think being able to download an example scene with everything ready and just pressing render would be a good way to accelerate learning since you already have all the resources and can focus more on changing positions/camera manipulation/render settings and so forth. In other words learning the program.

>>35724
What is EVMC?

 No.36246

>>36158
Over the last 31 days we have seen 0 pictures from your hand. Must be one hell of a program you're uskng. ;)

 No.36850

File: 1580406703468.jpg (4.84 MB, 2000x2600, Knife combat test.jpg)

Got some tips from someone else on this form about editing renders and stuff. The "wound and gore effects" in Daz kinda suck so I thought I would do them im post in photoshop specifically.

I wouldn't mind making a few short comics or storied with this now. I think I finally got the hang of it…but I think I can work on the photmanips more

 No.36856

>>36850

I love how you did the guts. I hope to see more like this.



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