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 No.29296[View All]

One of >>27825 torture festival events is Gurovision, where various performances are done on stage, as well as guro and just plain erotic fashion show. In some cases there will be "making of …" followup where it will be shown more on "how it was done" on that other thread.
Here, all action will happen on the stage.

The first and longest longest of them all is this extreme magic show.
Performers are professionals so do to try to repeat at home LOL
(this kind of show is actually known to be performed in Asia but here you will see erotic version)
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 No.31239

how about transferring the little girls ass cheeks to the skewered girls breast

 No.31242

…and now the face! :)

 No.31243

>>31239 what

>>31242 I strongly agree with this. How about some nice skewers through the cheeks?

 No.31359

Onix 07/07/19 (Sun) 12:03:12 No.31328
>>31314
I was talking about story realism, not about style. On that aspect, we are pretty similar.

But that's interesting to hear too, no need to be sorry. I really want to know what exactly you find wrong with my style, but probably we should discuss that on some of my threads not here.

Dear Onix, my respect for the understanding way you treat the posted criticism. I'd like to contribute to that by clarifying my views.
The characters you create for your stories look absoluteley great, be it that they look superclean as if they have been in the shower for an hour.
However the stories that you present come from a dreamworld which makes that your series lack a certain tension of reality. That -sadly- reduces your work rather to an interesting collector's item intead of a piece of work that moves the soul. I regret to say that this distinguishes your work from Drabok's.

 No.31360

>>31359
interesting remark. I agree that they are super clean but that is a kinda typical issue with all 3d artwork in existence not only mine. I made some experimental attempts to change that, but unless it is somehow required by the story there is no point in adding that extra complexity.

Speaking about stories themselves, yes, so far most of my stuff is surrealistic. It is supposed to be something similar to the "Alice in the wonderland" but I would not assume that as some fault because this is actually what guro is about for me in the first place: breaking rules of the reality. They are not really supposed to move your soul they are more like "Tom and Jerry" cartoon for adults.

I disagree that Drabok fantasy is that much more realistic because his world is unreal from another direction. In my stories, "victims" are invincible, while in his stories victims are disposable, but essentially it is the same thing. You may just not notice it. Funny enough, in the only story where characters were not disposable and which supposedly could move your soul, they actually survived.

Eventually, I also may do some stories with disposable victims or maybe even something completely realistic. But I do not see a big demand for that. I was trying to ask you all to talk more about story content itself as what kind of stories you would like to see but so far all requests are limited to some specific scenes without mentioning any narrative why that should happen.

 No.31373

>>31360

Overall i think Drabok's stories are more realistic than yours, but he did some fantasy stuff too. He had two stories involving monsters and he has a bunch of stories in a dystopian future where girls get executed for pretty much no reason. Interestingly those are also his stories where i like the background story the least, i prefer his other background stories, simply because i like more realistic scenarios. The rest are in my opinion all much more realistic than your stories. They might have some plot holes and many things in those stories would be very unlikely to happen in reality, but overall those stories seem not completely impossible to happen.

You know my opinion about his one story where his characters survived, no need to get into that again. It's safe to say his CDL story is still my favorite among his stories, partly because those girls had some real character, but i very much would have preferred a different ending.

One important difference between you and Drabok: Your victims are always consenting. That's the one thing that sets your work completely apart from Drabok, since his victims are never consenting. I'm not sure if it's fair to say this makes his work more realistic, but in my mind that's exactly what happens: I expect a girl to be horrified at those brutal tortures, i don't expect her to go along with it willingly. I don't expect you to change that, since it's clearly the defining element that sets your art apart from the art other artists like Drabok are creating. You have fans who probably like this style more than the alternative, and i guess you enjoy this much more than the stuff Drabok is usually creating. But this is the reason why i usually don't comment in your threads, your pictures are looking great but it's just not my fetish if the girls are consenting.

 No.31376

I am the other way around.
Myself i really like, that the girls partipiate willingly and not forced.
And Draboks Art is all about "torture" and more realistic.

But torture is only a small part of guro and i really like your art more, because you make really different things, you always have a surprise for us.

Debreast, real impossible penetrations, real funny and different circumstances. Please dont change anything.

You and KillerX are the best two guro Artists that i ever saw. Since KillerX dont make anything new, you are without doubt the number one at this genre.

 No.31381

>>31373
Actually, you are slightly wrong, as not all my characters are consenting, some are, some not. If you look more closely, Drabok's characters also eventually become consenting ;) His latest story characters happily walk to their doom. He also posted one completely consensual story on pixiv but not here.
Also, It is even hard to tell what is more realistic, because you all unanimously assure that you would never do anything like that in the real life and probably would not even jerk off on the real video of someone being murdered by some serial killer.
While much of the stuff in my stories really happened in real life and events that happen in my stories are actually something which I would do under the right circumstances. There are quite a lot of people who would give consent for all that as well and even there are people who actually react that way.

Of course, there are differences but realism is not one of them.


Considering what you can expect from me, consent is not absolutely required in my stories. A more important characteristic is that torture mutilation and possibly death is not some big deal to care about. On the level of consent, my story Of "cheerleader club" is similar to Drabok's girls being executed.
So it is entirely possible to see anything but one relatively important issue is that whatever happens must have some kind of reasoning behind it and if you did not notice I am pretty picky about that reasoning so if it would be some guy torturing some girls I must know why he is doing that in detail what is relationship between those characters. Simply doing something for no reason is not interesting and also not possible to show proper emotions and reaction.
If you have some ideas for a story with the decent reasonable plot I may do it.
Currently, I have some plans to make a story about WW2 Soviet partisan. Or possibly even jews ;) that would be like 99% realistic but I wonder what kind of reception it would get.
Once I mentioned that on another forum and it practically ended with outrage, because fantasy about torturing and murdering innocent women is ok but not if that woman is Jewish LOL
It may be strange but there are books written by death camp and gulag inmates about all that stuff and they are extremely funny regardless of the fact on how horrible are things that are described. Maybe you know the Movie "Life Is Beautiful"

 No.31385

What's happening in Drabok's stories isn't really consent: The girls in the summer camp are walking to their doom because they have no idea what's going to happen to them. This seems overall realistic to me, although the girls certainly seem very naive, not even talking about the parents. And in that story on pixiv, the way i understand it the girl is not fighting back because she was promised money for her parents this way, while she would still die if she tried to fight back. But i have to admit, i don't completely get that mentality.

The point about consent and realism for me: Of course masochists exist in this world. There are a bunch of people who get sexually turned on by getting tortured in real life. But most of them have limits and certainly don't want to suffer any permanent injuries. There have been exceptions, up to people agreeing to getting themselves killed, but they are incredibly rare. So your stories are in that way realistic since there have indeed been people who would agree to something like that. But if you take some random girls, it would be extremely unrealistic if they would react that way, out of the general population the vast majority of potential victims would react in a way similar to what Drabok is usually showing.

Your description of your work is probably more fitting, with torture etc not being a big deal. But that's also not that realistic for me: For the torturers it might not be a big deal, but for the victims it should be. In my mind, everything that is happening to the victims in these stories is usually the worst thing that ever happened to them, and that's showing in their reactions.

Can't really say anything about your WW2 story idea. It could be interesting, of course it's a sensitive topic for some people.

I have some story ideas, but they are focused on my fetishes, so i have my doubts if they would work for you. Maybe this one could, since unlike Drabok you have done scenes with kids torturing each other, but i'm not sure since our ideas are usually very much opposite of each other:

Somewhere in a rural area, we have a school bus. On this route there are a bunch of girls and one boy, i'm thinking the boy should be a younger teenager maybe 12 or 13 years old, the girls ranging everywhere from 8 to 16. These are the girls i'm currently thinking about: Two older girls (15 or 16). They are sisters and they have bullied the boy for years. Three girls around his age (12 or 13). He had a crush on one of them and asked her out, she rejected him, told her friends and all three have been making fun of him since then. Two young girls (8 or 9). One is his little sister and the other her best friend. His little sister is the favorite child at home and can do nothing wrong while everything is his fault, and she knows it and has terrorized him in every way possible just because she can.
So overall, the boy hates all of those girls for different reasons. Then we have the bus driver, a creepy guy who has driven these kids for some time and really just wanted to rape the older girls for a while and now he has decided it's time to act since he won't have this job much longer. This time he has brought his buddy along, another creepy guy who has a thing for young girls. They have decided to kidnap these kids and have some fun with the girls, they have some vague ideas including a good location but haven't really thought things through. The boy isn't part of their plan, they aren't sure what to do with him. He is pretty smart and convinces them to let him join, and it turns out he is much more sadistic than the guys, and he knows all of these girls really well and can use that knowledge against them.
I won't go into details about how to torture the girls, but i'm thinking as the story progresses most of it should be things the boy wants to have done to the girls, while the guys are getting more and more impressed with his ideas. I think a possible ending for that story would be that the boy somehow sets it up that everybody else is dead, the kidnappers shot by the police, and he gets "rescued" as the only survivor of this tragedy.
It's up to you if you would do something like that, i currently have no other ideas that seem more likely to be something you would like to do.

 No.31391

>>31385
Well, I would say that it does not matter that much if one is tricked or agrees consciously. From the outside, it still looks the same. Anyone can add one line of narrative that "character got paid to do it" use some hypnosis, drugs or mind control gun LOL
So I guess you can agree that the main issue is not about consent or realism but about the fact of how victims react to torture and death.
While of course, it is uncommon to find people willing to die it is even more uncommon to find people who rape teenage girls and then invite their necrophiliac friends to fuck corpses devoured by dogs. Looks pretty cool but only happens in the wildest fantasies.

Considering your story scenario, In fact, this is totally possible for me to do. It also fits my preference of reverse domination when someone who appears weak dominates one who looks stronger. so the idea of the 13-year boy being the mastermind of the evil plan is great. It looks like the erotic verison of "Scott Tenorman Must Die" Southpark episode
It would be an opportunity to make a story with a very good and complex plot which has a bit more than just porn value.
It will count more as horror story than porn.

Although the idea of torturing and murdering little sister is not very appealing to me. I think some small changes can be made to make it more reasonable and simpler:
A single father marries a woman with 2 daughters who become his stepsisters and then everything more or less as you describe he is mistreated at home and school and gets revenge.
There may be some technical and logistic problems with that huge number of characters so it can be reduced to something more reasonable.
Since this seems to be a pretty long story I do not promise anything when it will be done if ever, but It will be on my list of plans.

 No.31392

>>31376
Those surprises are not going to end soon.
After all my main fetish is "variety" LOL

 No.31393

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And now we can continue the magic show.

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 No.31401

I hope this will be a more interesting magic trick that just plain torture :)

 No.31402

>>31391

I get your point, and you are probably right. I'm looking for average girls, i want their reactions and everything about them to be what you would expect from a random girl, that's the point where i want realism in the way that it's not only possible but also very likely to happen if an average girl got into that situation. While for the situation itself, the realism i'm looking for is just that it's something that could happen in real life even though it would be incredibly unlikely and i only think it gets unrealistic when it goes from "extremely unlikely" to "completely impossible".

About my story scenario: Small changes are ok, and this seems like a pretty good change, i think i like stepsisters more than a little sister. I had the general idea for this story for a while, but the number of girls and his relation to them is something i made up on the spot, so adjust that in any way you want. It would be great if you did the story eventually, but it's completely up to you - i know this would be a long story, i really can't expect anything, so it's already great that you consider it.

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2 more pictures to finish this part.

 No.31413

I guess I also want to say something on the realism discussion. I completely agree with Onix that my stories are in many ways just as unrealistic as his are.

And who prefers which kind of unrealism is a matter of taste in the end.

His stories are set in a fantasy/fairytale setting. But from that starting point he develops them quite "realistically", meaning he sticks to the rules of the particular fantasy setting.

Some of my stories may be set a world more close to real life. But then they often develop quite unrealistically, breaking a lot of the rules and probabilities in the real world.

 No.31436

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Just one picture today as teaser to think about what is going to happen next.

 No.31438

>>31436
They nail the tall girl to the table and then stick skewers all through her body (navel ,womb ,limbs ,nipples ,inserting one into her peehole..) just missing the vital organs keeping her alive for a very long time.
At the grand finale they start sticking them through her head, not killing her yet but causing brain damage which expresses through her eyes rolling and tongue sticking out.

 No.31440

>>31438
That's so horrible. LOL
But this time I decided to focus more on the magic than just plain meaningless mutilations.
It is juts unclear if any of you even see anything of that at all ? :)

 No.31445

>>31440

I enjoy the show a lot. Varieté at its best, risky, magical, entertaining!

there's enough mindless slaughter out there already, I think its good to have some performance art.

I still would like if the lil girl had the spikes all through her body, but as part of the show and non-fatal.

 No.31446

>>31440
ok then the artistic and magical aspect of it is that the girls survives :)

 No.31448

Hmm, doing plain piercing through her body is a bit too plain and straightforward. everyone will be bored to death watching endless pictures of spikes going in the various places then taking them out
But I have one interesting idea similar to that which should a bit more interesting how to do it all in one go. So maybe I will do it after all.

But that trick may be too similar to the trick which should be done now.

>>31446
considering her survival, getting pierced is a bit too tame in comparison to what is supposed to happen later. so it is sort of a waste of time.
I kinda did not plan it to be so long but ended with something that was not planned at all.

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Some more hints

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 No.31459

Hmmm….Yessica 3000 comes to mind…..

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She is kinda supposed to fall here but not user is that's visible :)

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 No.31520

>>31448

Oh please, please keep going :) This isn't exactly what I had in mind, its way better!

I think I can speak for everyone here when I say we love unanticipated surprises :)

 No.31521

Ouch! Looks like an unpleasant accident for her. Nice idea ;)

 No.31522

No worry my friend. Knowing Onix it'll come out of her mouth in the shape of a oversized paperclip. ;)



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